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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4830 on: March 19, 2024, 11:00:18 AM »
I am shocked…SHOCKED…that the resident Democrats hate that Twitter is no longer a propaganda and censorship bureau for Democrats. And that Elon Musk, champion of free speech, is now a mortal enemy. Still chuckling over his evisceration, mutilation, and pulverization of Don Lemon.

Some people are just passed their sell-by date. Lemon is one of them.  Libs don't care about this story.  Sounds like the ball-washing went bad.   
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4831 on: March 19, 2024, 11:00:27 AM »
The 1st amendment was not an afterthought. It is the 1st one.
And it should apply to every fucking administration, and not just the people you're deranged about.

I'm becoming even more fond of the First Amendment daily. I stand by Trump's right to say that "Any Jewish person, who votes for Democrats, hates their religion, they hate everything about Israel"

That statement should serve him well.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4832 on: March 19, 2024, 11:03:40 AM »
Some people are just passed their sell-by date. Lemon is one of them.  Libs don't care about this story.  Sounds like the ball-washing went bad.

Doubly so because at this point, very few people care about Elon Musk. He's just a weird grandpa Simpson. There are plenty of adults in the room at SpaceX and Tesla. It's not optimal that he's exercising some weird control re: Starlink but it will be manageable. Destroying X is probably a feature, not a bug.

Contrasting him to Jensen is really quite illustrative.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4833 on: March 19, 2024, 11:16:06 AM »
I am shocked…SHOCKED…that the resident Democrats hate that Twitter is no longer a propaganda and censorship bureau for Democrats. And that Elon Musk, champion of free speech, is now a mortal enemy. Still chuckling over his evisceration, mutilation, and pulverization of Don Lemon.

I laughed at Musk being a free speech champion and then the mention of Lemon. That's good comedy.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4834 on: March 19, 2024, 11:39:51 AM »
I'm becoming even more fond of the First Amendment daily. I stand by Trump's right to say that "Any Jewish person, who votes for Democrats, hates their religion, they hate everything about Israel"

That statement should serve him well.

“You ain’t black”

Well, nevermind…
Because FOX News told me so…

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4835 on: March 19, 2024, 11:46:02 AM »
I laughed at Musk being a free speech champion and then the mention of Lemon. That's good comedy.

It was just bizarre that he tried to challenge him the way he did. Alum is correct, no one cares about him anymore, and this was the final nail in his coffin imo.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4836 on: March 19, 2024, 11:48:14 AM »
Doubly so because at this point, very few people care about Elon Musk. He's just a weird grandpa Simpson. There are plenty of adults in the room at SpaceX and Tesla. It's not optimal that he's exercising some weird control re: Starlink but it will be manageable. Destroying X is probably a feature, not a bug.

Contrasting him to Jensen is really quite illustrative.

What you really mean is that now that he owns X and it isn’t a propaganda arm of the Biden administration, AND he openly speaks out on the border crisis and other issues related to the administration, you and your liberal friends don’t care about him anymore. You used to be his biggest fanboi just a few years ago.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4837 on: March 19, 2024, 11:54:03 AM »
What you really mean is that now that he owns X and it isn’t a propaganda arm of the Biden administration, AND he openly speaks out on the border crisis and other issues related to the administration, you and your liberal friends don’t care about him anymore. You used to be his biggest fanboi just a few years ago.

X is a bigger cesspool than this forum. I still have my account in case I need to search for weather, traffic, or emergency info, but that's pretty much it. Everytime I open it I unfollow 90% of the old accounts I was following to clean my feed to just be key accounts for the reasons I just listed.

In retrospect it was always that way, but there was less noise so I could use it to communicate publicly about various local issues - there was user sourcing of train delays, fire info, etc... Now with the prevalence of new crap on it, the value there is gone.

Fortunately it feels like as more and more people find it useless, it will be nothing but PR people tweeting for celebrities and political figures, and thousands of replies to those tweets coming from bots.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4838 on: March 19, 2024, 12:02:57 PM »
You used to be his biggest fanboi just a few years ago.

I am a fan of Tesla's vehicles. They operate quite well, are efficient, and a template for big improvements in automobiles overall. He's doing a fine job of sticking his nose in just enough to slow that down. The whole Cybertruck business will be a money losing distraction. He's hired a ton of people to try to build chips for self driving, after a few years they just boomeranged back to Apple, AMD, Nvidia, Google. Gonna be increasingly hard for him to retain talent in the software engineering space because a lot of employees have RSUs that are 1/2 of what the grant was, and aren't optimistic that new RSUs will have much leverage compared to companies in the AI space (no - Tesla is not in that space).

When it was clear he wasn't a good CEO, I sold my stock. Too bad. My friend has a Tesla, 80k miles on it and the only service he's had to do is a set of new tires. The vehicle is coordinated with PG&E and throttles the charging to when electricity is cheapest, and now he's getting panels. When he comes from Sonoma to Redwood City on business, it takes half a charge, during the meetings he can top it off enough to get back comfortably.

For long term adoption we'll need to install chargers into parking meters in metro areas. This will allow us to reclaim land from gas stations (granted there are usually big soil remediation issues).

EV's have the same value over replacement as smart phones did to land lines - it's just that a new phone was 500 bucks and a new car is 30-70k, so the trajectory has to be slower. But it will happen.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4839 on: March 19, 2024, 12:08:08 PM »
It was just bizarre that he tried to challenge him the way he did. Alum is correct, no one cares about him anymore, and this was the final nail in his coffin imo.

Why would he even hire him in the first place?

Do not know if it is the final nail in his coffin, but whatever.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4840 on: March 19, 2024, 12:12:46 PM »
X usage is way down even among centrists and apolitical shitposters. There were very few people old Twitter banned and as it turns out, loosening the guardrails drives a lot of people out. At least publicly, the man didn't understand what business Twitter was in. His accomplishment here was transferring several billion dollars from a filthy rich fool to less filthy rich fools. If he had some political aim in the ordeal he could've accomplished so much more with an actual plan for his absurd wealth.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4841 on: March 19, 2024, 12:14:03 PM »
Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4842 on: March 19, 2024, 01:47:23 PM »
The 1st quote refers to a President.

A former President. In case you missed it, there is a declassification process.

HRC defenders tried to use this same excuse. Evidently a SoS can declassify certain docs.

Jordan bends over backwards to apologize for Trump's incompetence and arrogance, but reaches hard to find something on Biden.

Meanwhile,  it looks like first amendment case is no big deal. More of a heads up than coercion.

It is an interesting dilemma. Should the Federal government help protect us from bad medical advice? If so, to what extent?

There have always been contrarians. Thanks to the Internet, people like Alex Jones now have an even bigger voice.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4843 on: March 19, 2024, 03:52:47 PM »
Still chuckling over his evisceration, mutilation, and pulverization of Don Lemon.

Did you actually watch the interview? Or did the right wing media tell you what to think?

Overall, it was a decent interview. I dunno why Musk cancelled. He said he wanted a left perspective.

Interesting Musk thinks employees donating money to Democrats indicates a far left bias. The Democratic Party is center right.

Musk is also clearly wrong on DEI, and did a poor job of weaseling out of what he is dog whistling.

I dunno if X is breaking their own rules on hate speech or not. Saying if no one reads it; it's not a violation is what we used to call a copout.

On the immigration discussion, they mostly talked past each other.  Musk wanted to talk census; Lemon wanted to talk replacement theory.

Musk says trans people are not only wrong, they are evil? I wonder if he knows any?

I am not an expert on X, but the political discussions I wandered into were extreme right and, well, unpleasant.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4844 on: March 19, 2024, 04:47:40 PM »
Why would he even hire him in the first place?

That's not a super accurate way of describing their business relationship. The interview is on YouTube as well as some other platforms, maybe even including X.

They had a contract where X got some sort of early exclusivity or something. Just to get the eyeballs to X first.