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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3990 on: November 30, 2023, 01:51:48 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 30, 2023, 12:58:48 PM
I don't think that's what his Dad said.

It was not his Dad, it was the tribe that issued the statement.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3991 on: November 30, 2023, 01:55:00 PM »
I suppose I am insensitive, but don't really care about people getting offended over cultural appropriation, bathrooms, pronouns, and such.

I care about important things like healthcare, infrastructure, chili, Italian beef, and Illini sports.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3992 on: November 30, 2023, 02:13:16 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on November 30, 2023, 01:55:00 PM
I suppose I am insensitive, but don't really care about people getting offended over cultural appropriation, bathrooms, pronouns, and such.

I care about important things like healthcare, infrastructure, chili, Italian beef, and Illini sports.

Maybe we can get along after all

I call a truce
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3993 on: November 30, 2023, 02:31:18 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 30, 2023, 01:51:48 PM
It was not his Dad, it was the tribe that issued the statement.
His Dad spoke yesterday saying no tribes wear a headress like his Native American 9 year old son wore, and that it's a costume piece.
And the Dad did say that some tribal members were ok with it and some were not.
And yes, Deadspin showed the black side as a way of tearing into a 9 year old Native American kid that Deadspin knew nothing about. Did the "journalist" address this ?

And the "journalist" pats himself on the back for obtaining a policy statement from the tribe the day after the Dad and the 9 year old spoke.

Who polices the young trick or treaters that show up on Halloween for the proper regalia ?



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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3994 on: November 30, 2023, 02:33:48 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on November 30, 2023, 01:55:00 PM
I suppose I am insensitive, but don't really care about people getting offended over cultural appropriation, bathrooms, pronouns, and such.

I care about important things like healthcare, infrastructure, chili, Italian beef, and Illini sports.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3995 on: November 30, 2023, 02:52:27 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 30, 2023, 02:31:18 PM
His Dad spoke yesterday saying no tribes wear a headress like his Native American 9 year old son wore, and that it's a costume piece.
And the Dad did say that some tribal members were ok with it and some were not.
And yes, Deadspin showed the black side as a way of tearing into a 9 year old Native American kid that Deadspin knew nothing about. Did the "journalist" address this ?

And the "journalist" pats himself on the back for obtaining a policy statement from the tribe the day after the Dad and the 9 year old spoke.

Who polices the young trick or treaters that show up on Halloween for the proper regalia ?

After reaching out to the dad and kid, seeking a statement from the tribal council would be the smart move for any journalist interested in providing some context to the story.           
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3996 on: November 30, 2023, 03:11:09 PM »
Quote from: Custard on November 30, 2023, 01:08:35 PM
Isn’t it funny how people routinely see completely different stories about the same incidents depending on their political leanings?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3997 on: November 30, 2023, 03:34:07 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on November 30, 2023, 02:52:27 PM
After reaching out to the dad and kid, seeking a statement from the tribal council would be the smart move for any journalist interested in providing some context to the story.           
I don't remember seeing where Blackistone reached out to the Native American family.
Did the tribal council offer a statement or did they just provide their policy statement  because the "statement" also includes a reference to cultural appropriation ?
The statement reads as a policy that a federally funded group may be expected to have
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3998 on: November 30, 2023, 04:05:29 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on November 30, 2023, 02:33:48 PM
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3999 on: November 30, 2023, 04:05:34 PM »
I'd rather leave the kid have been left alone and let his parents deal with it, but I guess that's just me.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4000 on: November 30, 2023, 04:07:04 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 30, 2023, 03:34:07 PM
I don't remember seeing where Blackistone reached out to the Native American family.
Did the tribal council offer a statement or did they just provide their policy statement  because the "statement" also includes a reference to cultural appropriation ?
The statement reads as a policy that a federally funded group may be expected to have

Who is Blackistone? I thought someone else reached out to the tribe in response to all the hullabaloo over the Zombie Scabspin article on The Twitter (shocking).
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4001 on: November 30, 2023, 04:55:29 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 30, 2023, 03:34:07 PM
I don't remember seeing where Blackistone reached out to the Native American family.
Did the tribal council offer a statement or did they just provide their policy statement  because the "statement" also includes a reference to cultural appropriation ?
The statement reads as a policy that a federally funded group may be expected to have

The statement was issued by Tribal Chairman Kenneth Kahn. It was prepared specifically in response to Blackistone's inquiry about the kid's attire for the football game.
https://thespun.com/nfl/afc-west/kansas-city-chiefs/native-american-tribe-releases-statement-on-chiefs-fans-controversial-outfit

Here's the statement:

"Hi Mr. Blackistone,"

"Thank you for reaching out to the Santa Ynez Chumash about the issue." 

"We are aware that a young member of our community attended a Kansas City Chiefs game in a headdress and face paint in his way of supporting his favorite team.  Please keep in mind that the decisions made by individuals or families in our community are their own and may not reflect the views of the broader tribal community.  As a federally recognized tribe, the Santa Ynez Band Chumash Indians does not endorse wearing regalia as part of a costume or participating in any other type of cultural appropriation."
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4002 on: November 30, 2023, 05:24:18 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 30, 2023, 04:07:04 PM
Who is Blackistone? I thought someone else reached out to the tribe in response to all the hullabaloo over the Zombie Scabspin article on The Twitter (shocking).
From the article Alum, the Braves fan, posted ....
"A young Chiefs fan made headlines this past weekend because he attended the team's game with his face painted half red and half black. He was also wearing a Native headdress."

The child's parents said his attire for the Chiefs-Raiders game was OK because his grandfather is a tribal council member for the Santa Ynez Band of Chumash Indians.

Nope, he did not make headlines because of the black and red face paint. He made the headlines because of Deadspin, the black face depiction and the story. 

And ...
"With that said, longtime journalist Kevin Blackistone decided to ask the Santa Ynez Band of Chumash Indians about this situation."

Kevin Blackistone is a co-producer of Imagining the Indian, The fight against Native American mascoting.
He did a screening at NU on Nov 7.
You must have missed it.
He was given a statement from the Tribal CHairman that ended with 'as a federally recognized tribe .........." which hardly sounds like a tribal policy that was begun today.
He preceeded that by saying that decisions made by individuals are their own.
Holden's Dad contacted tribal members, some of whom apparently had no issues with Holden's attire for the game.

Hopefully, the 9 year old Native American can sue and get back to being a kid again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4003 on: November 30, 2023, 05:39:41 PM »
Ope I guess the news didn’t know he was a Professor Kaufman type
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4004 on: November 30, 2023, 06:51:35 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 30, 2023, 05:24:18 PM
Hopefully, the 9 year old Native American can sue and get back to being a kid again.

I don't know who the kid will sue, but it won't be the tribal council for the statement it issued via the chairman.

As to the Braves, good to see the team retire the mascot, stop handing out foam tomahawks and end the chop music. The Muscogee (Creek) and Cherokee tribal councils both condemned the chop and chant.  Would like to see the tomahawk logo removed from the home uniforms. 
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