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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7395 on: April 23, 2025, 10:37:43 AM »
Quote from: alum74 on April 23, 2025, 10:11:59 AM
Cute.  Custard thinks our Orange God Emperor is taking on BIG OIL.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/12/trump-fossil-fuels-oil-and-gas

https://apnews.com/article/trump-energy-department-clean-energy-wind-solar-batteries-hydrogen-fossil-fuels-cf1dff9ee771c566765e9ca3e3599d91

The US has large natural gas deposits, which is pretty clean.

But you do bring up a good point, gas is down bigly, and I celebrated by buying a full size SUV. Now I can leave the top and doors off the Jeep all summer and not have to worry about putting them back on when the weather is rainy, as it will just stay in the garage.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7396 on: April 23, 2025, 11:05:12 AM »
Quote from: Custard on April 23, 2025, 10:27:52 AM
India bought up Russian oil after the sanctions went into place, and their trade is up threefold since the war started. That cheap Russian oil flows to them now while Germany pays 4x for energy what we do here.

Yes, they will do business with anyone and have no qualms about it. We should cut off all H1-Bs and our companies offshoring with then as a result.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7397 on: April 23, 2025, 11:09:24 AM »
Quote from: Custard on April 23, 2025, 10:37:43 AM
The US has large natural gas deposits, which is pretty clean.

But you do bring up a good point, gas is down bigly, and I celebrated by buying a full size SUV. Now I can leave the top and doors off the Jeep all summer and not have to worry about putting them back on when the weather is rainy, as it will just stay in the garage.

so which is it? taking on big oil is good? or taking on big oil is bad?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7398 on: April 23, 2025, 11:27:37 AM »
Quote from: Custard on April 23, 2025, 10:37:43 AM
The US has large natural gas deposits, which is pretty clean.

But you do bring up a good point, gas is down bigly, and I celebrated by buying a full size SUV. Now I can leave the top and doors off the Jeep all summer and not have to worry about putting them back on when the weather is rainy, as it will just stay in the garage.

Like the term "sustainable agriculture", clean natural gas is an oxymoron. 

Just look at the huge quantities of methane, a potent greenhouse gas, being leaked into the atmosphere during the extraction, processing and transport of natural gas.
https://www.climaterealityproject.org/blog/3-big-myths-about-natural-gas-and-our-climate

And then there is all the toxic pollutants released into the air and water during the the extraction of natural gas from shale.
https://www.nrdc.org/stories/fracking-101#what-is

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7399 on: April 23, 2025, 11:41:19 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on April 23, 2025, 11:09:24 AM
so which is it? taking on big oil is good? or taking on big oil is bad?

Reasonably priced energy is good. Petroleum based food additives/colors in our food supply is bad.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7400 on: April 23, 2025, 11:43:59 AM »
Quote from: alum74 on April 23, 2025, 11:27:37 AM
Like the term "sustainable agriculture", clean natural gas is an oxymoron. 

Just look at the huge quantities of methane, a potent greenhouse gas, being leaked into the atmosphere during the extraction, processing and transport of natural gas.
https://www.climaterealityproject.org/blog/3-big-myths-about-natural-gas-and-our-climate

And then there is all the toxic pollutants released into the air and water during the the extraction of natural gas from shale.
https://www.nrdc.org/stories/fracking-101#what-is

Makes sense to consume our own abundant, relatively cleaner domestic fuel while renewable technology scales.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7401 on: April 23, 2025, 11:57:24 AM »
Quote from: Custard on April 23, 2025, 11:43:59 AM
Makes sense to consume our own abundant, relatively cleaner domestic fuel while renewable technology scales.

So Trump isn't taking on BIG OIL?  In fact, it's just the opposite.
https://energy-oil-gas.com/news/what-trumps-2025-energy-plan-means-for-the-oil-and-gas-industry/
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7402 on: April 23, 2025, 12:01:06 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on April 23, 2025, 11:57:24 AM
So Trump isn't taking on BIG OIL?  In fact, it's just the opposite.
https://energy-oil-gas.com/news/what-trumps-2025-energy-plan-means-for-the-oil-and-gas-industry/

No, Trump/RFK are allowing them to provide us with affordable energy through some deregulation, while getting petroleum out of our food supply. They’re also taking on Big Pharma, which sounds like a 2010 Democrat thing to do. 2025 Democrats now stand on the side of Big Pharma and repeat all their paid talking points.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7403 on: April 23, 2025, 12:07:36 PM »
Quote from: Custard on April 23, 2025, 12:01:06 PM
No, Trump/RFK are allowing them to provide us with affordable energy through some deregulation, while getting petroleum out of our food supply. They’re also taking on Big Pharma, which sounds like a 2010 Democrat thing to do. 2025 Democrats now stand on the side of Big Pharma and repeat all their paid talking points.

Great.  Trump's going to rollback health, safety and environmental protections so that BIG OIL can make even more money. 

That's showing em!
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7404 on: April 23, 2025, 12:11:12 PM »
Quote from: Custard on April 23, 2025, 11:43:59 AM
Makes sense to consume our own abundant, relatively cleaner domestic fuel while renewable technology scales.

Then put your shoes on and walk. Or are you not relatively clean?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7405 on: April 23, 2025, 12:12:48 PM »
Quote from: Custard on April 23, 2025, 12:01:06 PM
No, Trump/RFK are allowing them to provide us with affordable energy through some deregulation, while getting petroleum out of our food supply.

They're banning petroleum based fertilizers? Awesome!

Banning plastic packaging on foods! even better!
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7406 on: April 23, 2025, 12:37:58 PM »
Don't forget banning paper straws
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7407 on: April 23, 2025, 12:43:36 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on April 23, 2025, 12:37:58 PM
Don't forget banning paper straws

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« Reply #7408 on: April 23, 2025, 12:51:00 PM »
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7409 on: April 23, 2025, 12:53:41 PM »
Quote from: Custard on April 23, 2025, 12:51:00 PM
Some Fox News even Murph and Ray can enjoy!

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/david-marcus-we-cant-deport-illegals-heres-how-we-can-make-impossible-stay

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Any person or company who hires an illegal, knowingly or unknowingly, pays a $25,000 fine, per person. This would apply not only to faceless corporations, but to any rich couple from the Hamptons to Beverly Hills who hires an illegal immigrant nanny or landscaper.

I don't disagree.  But good luck with that. Too much money to be made on their backs.
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