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Re: Hurricane Ian
« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2022, 05:40:09 AM »
I didn’t see this thread.  But I live in Estero and got some good video of the Hurricane coming ashore and damage the day after.  Here are 2 of my videos.  Make sure to play them in the highest quality or they are blurry.








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Re: Hurricane Ian
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2022, 11:51:51 AM »
Quote from: Dominic on October 24, 2022, 05:40:09 AM
I didn’t see this thread.  But I live in Estero and got some good video of the Hurricane coming ashore and damage the day after.  Here are 2 of my videos.  Make sure to play them in the highest quality or they are blurry.





Is anything even remotely functional in Bonita Beach? My parent's condo is on the north end of Hickory - when you ask what the status is, it seems the answer is still "we don't know, nobody can get to the building"
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Re: Hurricane Ian
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2022, 07:49:14 PM »
Hopefully Murph is ok with the earthquake. Maybe he can post video of any devastation.
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Re: Hurricane Ian
« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2022, 08:43:39 PM »
He’s probably too busy harboring refugees and “immigrants” at his complex !
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Re: Hurricane Ian
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2022, 09:15:21 PM »
Quote from: IlliniGolf on October 25, 2022, 08:43:39 PM
He’s probably too busy harboring refugees and “immigrants” at his complex !

If that is the case, DeSantis will pay millions to fly them to FLA to have them clean up since you lazy asses won't do it yourselves!
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Re: Hurricane Ian
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2022, 10:59:47 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 25, 2022, 07:49:14 PM
Hopefully Murph is ok with the earthquake. Maybe he can post video of any devastation.
My beer fell over. Let's have a moment of silence.
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Re: Hurricane Ian
« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2022, 11:27:02 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on October 25, 2022, 10:59:47 PM
My beer fell over. Let's have a moment of silence.

Awaiting your narrated video of the toppled beer, then.
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Re: Hurricane Ian
« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2022, 11:39:40 PM »
Probably a Pliny the Elder. What a tragedy.
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Re: Hurricane Ian
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2022, 11:42:26 AM »
Quote from: Custard on October 25, 2022, 11:39:40 PM
Probably a Pliny the Elder. What a tragedy.

Pliny is a can't miss, even though it's more available now it's always such a great beer it never gets old.

But in this case it was a Knee Deep Deez Hops. Thumbs up.
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Re: Hurricane Ian
« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2022, 07:32:44 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on October 24, 2022, 11:51:51 AM
Is anything even remotely functional in Bonita Beach? My parent's condo is on the north end of Hickory - when you ask what the status is, it seems the answer is still "we don't know, nobody can get to the building"

There’s still a 7pm to 7am curfew with a police manned roadblock at Barefoot Beach.  I drove out there for the first time this morning around 530am and it looked pitch black behind the road block so I’m assuming they still don’t have power out there.  They need to rebuild the road first mainly bc all the sand that was on the beach was dumped on the road.  I’m assuming since the curfew isn’t in effect between 7am- 7pm the residents can drive back there although you’ll be driving on sand
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Re: Hurricane Ian
« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2022, 10:03:57 AM »
Quote from: Dominic on October 27, 2022, 07:32:44 AM
There’s still a 7pm to 7am curfew with a police manned roadblock at Barefoot Beach.  I drove out there for the first time this morning around 530am and it looked pitch black behind the road block so I’m assuming they still don’t have power out there.  They need to rebuild the road first mainly bc all the sand that was on the beach was dumped on the road.  I’m assuming since the curfew isn’t in effect between 7am- 7pm the residents can drive back there although you’ll be driving on sand

Wild stuff.

Some people on my parent's (5th) floor were there, and we got video from them. Those people were basically trapped in the building for a while, no power to elevators and several feet of sand in the lowest level of the stairways. They had to make do for a while. Presumably they got out somehow, no running water = no toilet etc...

The only reason to go there would presumably be to do clean up, no water or power means pretty much uninhabitable, if the unit even exists. At BBC, the first floor was completely underwater, the 2nd floor had a couple feet of water. Even unoccupied units had random things like condiments in the fridge that are probably pretty nasty now.

This feels like years. As bad as the Tubbs Fire in Santa Rosa seemed like it would be, this seems much worse, the fire caused no real loss of infrastructure, power restoration was quick, no mold/etc..., not a lot of debris because everything was burned to ashes, and the square miles of destruction were a couple of orders of magnitude less.
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Re: Hurricane Ian
« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2022, 11:59:12 AM »
From what I saw most everything for the first floor properties on the beach and some even across Bonita beach road were a total loss bc that is as high as the water got.  If you looked at my damage video, I mean lot of it looked like tornado damage. There were cars flipped completely upside down in the big condo complex right across the street from barefoot beach.  Palm trees which are very strong completely uprooted.  Boats pushed way out of the water and dumped in the middle of the street.  And then just the sand being dumped on the road.  It was like beach was moved 200 feet directly inland.   I signed up to do this “debris monitoring” job and the contractors said they may be here an entire year cleaning up.  The tourist/ snowbird season is absolutely dead.  Bonita Beach got it bad but most everything is still at least standing even though 1st floors are likely total loss. But Ft Myers Beach and Sanibel got it way worse.  Sanibel is uninhabitable bc they have to rebuild the entire power grid.  It’ll be years to rebuild Ft Myers Beach. Lot of the buildings destroyed there were very old so maybe new construction will be better.

It’s been almost a month since the storm came thru and I’d say if you live right on the coast from Bonita Beach up to Ft Myers Beach your place is likely uninhabitable. That’s why the police have the blockade up over night to prevent looters or accidents from people driving on the sand.   I’d say they’ll try to get power on and road access by December though since that is when most snowbirds start coming.  If your parents take Uber right now from airport to Bonita Beach the closest they can get would be the blockade set at Barefoot Beach.  Then they’d have to walk the rest of the way.

As far as people being stranded, there were evacuation orders Tuesday night the day before the storm came in.  Every Publix/Walmart was closed 4pm-6pm, a full 12+ hours before it came in. So I think there was plenty of warning.    There were obviously too many people along the coastline that didn’t understand what a forecast surge of that magnitude would do and decided to ride it out. I’m a little east of 41 and lost power from Wed thru Sunday and didn’t have water for a few days.  So being along the coast those people who stayed there were really screwed.  Doubt anyone stays again but not likely we ever have a storm like this again either.  It had to come in at just the right angle with that intensity to do this amount of damage. 
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Re: Hurricane Ian
« Reply #42 on: October 27, 2022, 02:49:53 PM »
Don't want to burst your bubble, but you've had 4 majors in 2 decades make landfall within 50 miles of your location.  Thats 2004 Charley, 2005 Wilma, 2017 Irma, and Ian this year.

And both 1992 Andrew and 2005 Katrina crossed the state from the east to west and were just as close.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/climo/images/strikes_us_mjr.jpg

Climatologically speaking this storm's path was very normal.  Hurricanes tend come in from the southwest into Florida from late September through November.   Wilma did the same.

Everything prior to late September tends to come in from the southeast.
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Re: Hurricane Ian
« Reply #43 on: October 27, 2022, 03:11:29 PM »
Quote from: Jrock74 on October 27, 2022, 02:49:53 PM
Don't want to burst your bubble, but you've had 4 majors in 2 decades make landfall within 50 miles of your location.  Thats 2004 Charley, 2005 Wilma, 2017 Irma, and Ian this year.

And both 1992 Andrew and 2005 Katrina crossed the state from the east to west and were just as close.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/climo/images/strikes_us_mjr.jpg

Climatologically speaking this storm's path was very normal.  Hurricanes tend come in from the southwest into Florida from late September through November.   Wilma did the same.

Everything prior to late September tends to come in from the southeast.

This one was something else. For Irma, we watched it on the webcam from the condo. This one broke everything.

There was a fire in Oakland Hills in the 90's. Then we had Tubbs. OK, a bad fire every 30 or so years in the Bay Area, that sucks.

Then we have had fires *every year* since then until this year, when we got a freak rain storm in July (that happened to put out a fire in Colfax thank god). New normal. If you get one of these every 5 years, you can't rebuild as fast as shit breaks. At least for the most part, if you get a massive fire, that messes up the environment but eventually you run out of fuel. Can't run out of Ocean water.
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Re: Hurricane Ian
« Reply #44 on: October 27, 2022, 09:55:05 PM »
Quote from: Jrock74 on October 27, 2022, 02:49:53 PM
Don't want to burst your bubble, but you've had 4 majors in 2 decades make landfall within 50 miles of your location.  Thats 2004 Charley, 2005 Wilma, 2017 Irma, and Ian this year.

And both 1992 Andrew and 2005 Katrina crossed the state from the east to west and were just as close.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/climo/images/strikes_us_mjr.jpg

Climatologically speaking this storm's path was very normal.  Hurricanes tend come in from the southwest into Florida from late September through November.   Wilma did the same.

Everything prior to late September tends to come in from the southeast.

SW FL is usually protected from major hurricanes bc it’s rare for one to come from the west.  And if it came from the East across FL, it’d be weaker by the time it got to the west side.  If it came directly up from the south, Cuba would likely weaken it.  But with Ian, it was the perfect path to do Maximum damage.  It only skirted the western part of Cuba so Cuba didn’t weaken it much.   Then it turned North/NorthEast and landfall just north of Ft Myers which meant maximum surge was everything south of the landfall point which included FtMyers/Naples.  Naples has more millionaires per square mile than any other place in the US.  So with that type of high value property getting a major Hurricane, this could be the 2nd costliest hurricane in US history. Doubt it’d pass Katrina tho. 

Lot of people here are screwed bc they didn’t have flood insurance, and some coastal properties probably have no insurance at all since no insurance company wants to cover those areas. It’ll be interesting what does get rebuilt if no one will insure them anymore.  I think after the 2004 hurricanes hit FL and all the private insurers left, the state had to step in and provide coverage and just hope nothing would hit.  And it was quiet from 2006-2017. Irma was bad and Ian was catastrophic. 
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