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spark mandrill

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3300 on: June 06, 2023, 04:17:14 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 06, 2023, 04:14:31 PM
I think you are being a little naive here.

Not at all.

Peeping in the bathroom is already a crime.  If you do it you committed a crime and are subject to prosecution no matter who you are.

For someone who is willing to pretend this is about safety to call someone else naive is particularly funny.  The laws keeping you safe in the bathroom already exist, and the transphobic laws advocated for by Judy and her like do not keep anyone safe - they make things more dangerous for "certain" people though.

I'm a cis man, I can't go peep on dudes in the stalls in the men's room.  That is already against the law.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3301 on: June 06, 2023, 04:17:18 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 06, 2023, 04:14:06 PM
Literally anyone, any gender, caught spying on someone else in a bathroom is likely getting prosecuted.


I am skeptical of this claim.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3302 on: June 06, 2023, 04:18:28 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 06, 2023, 04:17:18 PM
I am skeptical of this claim.


I'm pretty skeptical of your motivations to defend open and obvious bigotry, but here we are.

The laws making it illegal to spy on someone or assault someone in a restroom exist already, and aren't related to someone's gender identity at all.  No one, as far as I can tell, is advocating for those laws to go away.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3303 on: June 06, 2023, 04:19:50 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 06, 2023, 04:17:14 PM
Not at all.

Peeping in the bathroom is already a crime.  If you do it you committed a crime and are subject to prosecution no matter who you are.

For someone who is willing to pretend this is about safety to call someone else naive is particularly funny.  The laws keeping you safe in the bathroom already exist, and the transphobic laws advocated for by Judy and her like do not keep anyone safe - they make things more dangerous for "certain" people though.

I'm a cis man, I can't go peep on dudes in the stalls in the men's room.  That is already against the law.

The argument is about a perv dressing in drag and hanging out in woman's bathroom falsely claiming "gender identification!" as a defense. 
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3304 on: June 06, 2023, 04:20:11 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 06, 2023, 04:06:07 PM
Instead of assaults, that is the easy one, what about a "peeper" dressing in drag to have the excuse to go in the woman's restroom. What do you do there?

Chump Edit: How do you assuage Judge Judy's fears in that scenario
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What's your position on lesbians using public women's restrooms?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3305 on: June 06, 2023, 04:20:47 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 06, 2023, 04:19:50 PM
The argument is about a perv dressing in drag and hanging out in woman's bathroom falsely claiming "gender identification!" as a defense.

To what end?

Are they spying?  If yes, they committed a crime.  Are they assaulting someone?  If yes, they committed a crime.

Are they just using the bathroom and leaving like every other person?  If yes, what the fuck is the issue here?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3306 on: June 06, 2023, 04:21:07 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on June 06, 2023, 04:20:11 PM
What's your position on lesbians using public women's restrooms?

They're up right after gay men.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3307 on: June 06, 2023, 04:21:15 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 06, 2023, 04:18:28 PM

I'm pretty skeptical of your motivations to defend open and obvious bigotry, but here we are.

The laws making it illegal to spy on someone or assault someone in a restroom exist already, and aren't related to someone's gender identity at all.

Again, how do you assuage Judge Judy's fears about a perv dressing in drag to hang out in the woman's room falsely claiming gender identification as a "defense"?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3308 on: June 06, 2023, 04:21:45 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on June 06, 2023, 04:20:11 PM
What's your position on lesbians using public women's restrooms?

I think they already do. Does not bother me.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3309 on: June 06, 2023, 04:22:46 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 06, 2023, 04:21:15 PM
Again, how do you assuage Judge Judy's fears about a perv dressing in drag to hang out in the woman's room falsely claiming gender identification as a "defense"?

The same way I already do.

If they're spying on your daughter in the bathroom, report them to the police.  Doesn't matter what's in their pants, it's a crime.  If it's a cis woman spying on her in the woman's room, it's also a crime - tell the police.

If they are using the restroom and then leaving, then I don't feel the need to "asauge" anything.  If someone minding their business using the restroom really makes JudgeJudy that mad because of what she imagines is in their pants, that's on Judy, not the person in the restroom.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3310 on: June 06, 2023, 04:23:41 PM »
I wonder what the hell these snowflakes would do at the Gare Du Nord in Paris. In the bathroom area, there are a few stalls for men and more stalls for women, and in the hallway outside where those stalls are, is a wall with drainage where men just pee. No particular amount of privacy involved. Because I guess in France, nobody is getting their jig on watching random people pee, I guess.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3311 on: June 06, 2023, 04:24:23 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 06, 2023, 04:20:47 PM
To what end?

Are they spying?  If yes, they committed a crime.  Are they assaulting someone?  If yes, they committed a crime.

Are they just using the bathroom and leaving like every other person?  If yes, what the fuck is the issue here?

The issue is assuaging Judge Judy's concerns about Perv Bob dressing in drag so he has an excuse to be in the washroom with Judge Judy's daughter.

I am skeptical you have accomplished that by relying on current laws in light of the cultural changes to gender identification, etc.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3312 on: June 06, 2023, 04:25:07 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 06, 2023, 04:22:46 PM
The same way I already do.

If they're spying on your daughter in the bathroom, report them to the police.  Doesn't matter what's in their pants, it's a crime.  If it's a cis woman spying on her in the woman's room, it's also a crime - tell the police.

If they are using the restroom and then leaving, then I don't feel the need to "asauge" anything.  If someone minding their business using the restroom really makes JudgeJudy that mad because of what she imagines is in their pants, that's on Judy, not the person in the restroom.

He's not in there. His daughter is.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3313 on: June 06, 2023, 04:25:53 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on June 06, 2023, 04:23:41 PM
I wonder what the hell these snowflakes would do at the Gare Du Nord in Paris. In the bathroom area, there are a few stalls for men and more stalls for women, and in the hallway outside where those stalls are, is a wall with drainage where men just pee. No particular amount of privacy involved. Because I guess in France, nobody is getting their jig on watching random people pee, I guess.

It is France. They are surrender monkeys. Remember?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3314 on: June 06, 2023, 04:27:01 PM »
While I am sure Judge Judge is concerned about "Perv Sue," I will speculate he is more concerned about "Perv Bob" in this scenario.
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