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wtf is wrong with the right?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2745 on: December 03, 2022, 01:13:53 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 01:06:40 PM
Isn't that a rerun, Nichi?

Getting old. Can't recall.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2746 on: December 05, 2022, 09:48:40 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 03, 2022, 01:13:53 PM
Getting old. Can't recall.

Don’t you go dying on us…
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2747 on: December 05, 2022, 10:24:18 AM »
Yeah posted that probably a couple weeks ago
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2748 on: December 06, 2022, 10:40:56 PM »
Are we going to blame The Twitter for Walker losing in Georgia?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2749 on: December 06, 2022, 10:51:27 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 06, 2022, 10:40:56 PM
Are we going to blame The Twitter for Walker losing in Georgia?

I was going to ask that.

Also,

How about who's to blame for the massive Republican midterm failure? Kari Lake's loss? Boebert's recount despite gerrymandering?
 

It can't possibly be that the voters rejected the  Republican agenda.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2750 on: December 06, 2022, 10:56:12 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 06, 2022, 10:51:27 PM
I was going to ask that.

Also,

How about who's to blame for the massive Republican midterm failure? Kari Lake's loss? Boebert's recount despite gerrymandering?
 

It can't possibly be that the voters rejected the  Republican agenda.

Twitter. Suppressing Republican messaging on a platform used by urban Dems.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2751 on: December 06, 2022, 11:21:16 PM »
It was only a massive failure when compared to the enormous “red wave” expectations that most mainstream media had been hyping for months. Don’t think most people who actually pay attention to things really thought that was going to happen. It’s almost like if you know you’re going to lose ground you make it sound like you’re going to lose in a landslide then when you only lose by a bit it’s a huge victory.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2752 on: December 06, 2022, 11:26:51 PM »
Quote from: Custard on December 06, 2022, 11:21:16 PM
It was only a massive failure when compared to the enormous “red wave” expectations that most mainstream media had been hyping for months. Don’t think most people who actually pay attention to things really thought that was going to happen. It’s almost like if you know you’re going to lose ground you make it sound like you’re going to lose in a landslide then when you only lose by a bit it’s a huge victory.

The Democrats only lost by a bit the same way Morocco only lost by a bit to Spain. They gained a seat in the Senate, and flipped multiple state houses. They lost the house by a few seats which might be frankly, a false victory for the GOP because they can't even congeal on who will be speaker.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2753 on: December 06, 2022, 11:37:21 PM »
Quote from: Custard on December 06, 2022, 11:21:16 PM
It was only a massive failure when compared to the enormous “red wave” expectations that most mainstream media had been hyping for months. Don’t think most people who actually pay attention to things really thought that was going to happen. It’s almost like if you know you’re going to lose ground you make it sound like you’re going to lose in a landslide then when you only lose by a bit it’s a huge victory.

Best midterm for a sitting President since forever? Picked up a seat in the Senate, gained two governors. Lost 9? seats in the House.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2754 on: December 06, 2022, 11:48:45 PM »
The talking heads on Fox were celebrating the red wave right up until it didn't happen. They are still in more or less denial.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2755 on: December 07, 2022, 06:23:07 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 06, 2022, 11:48:45 PM
The talking heads on Fox were celebrating the red wave right up until it didn't happen. They are still in more or less denial.

It is almost as if those who ignore history, or maybe only get it from The Twitter?, don't understand how different this midterm election ended up being.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2756 on: December 07, 2022, 12:31:33 PM »
It’s still pretty pathetic that the Democrats weren’t able to win in a landslide after Jan 6, and the Supreme Court striking down Roe. This should have been a slaughter.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2757 on: December 07, 2022, 12:37:56 PM »
Unsure how I saw this without The Twitter....

https://impactresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/IMPACT-RESEARCH-2022-POST-ELECTION-TAKEAWAYS-FINAL80.pdf

Re: How Democrats Prevented a Red Wave

By all major political indicators, 2022 should have delivered the type of shellacking that
the president’s party typically endures in midterm elections: Over 70% of voters
believed the country was on the wrong track, 76% rated the economy negatively, and
President Biden’s approval rating of 43% has historically resulted in a loss of about 40
House seats.1 Yet, despite these strong headwinds, Democrats and President Biden
bucked history by holding the Senate and only narrowly losing the House of
Representatives. So how did they do it? Below are some takeaways from post-election
survey data that help explain how Democrats avoided a red wave.

Democrats won by winning over Independents, not by turning out their
base.

Democrats were able to make this election a choice due to abortion and
threats to democracy being as important to voters as inflation and the
economy

Late deciders did not heavily break towards Republicans
The passage of the Inflation Reduction Act and CHIPS Act allowed
Democrats to cut into the GOP advantage on the economy and reduce
frustration over a lack of legislative accomplishments.

Democrats overperformed because voters disliked Republican candidates
more, not because voters liked Democrats more than we thought.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2758 on: December 07, 2022, 01:02:05 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 07, 2022, 12:31:33 PM
It’s still pretty pathetic that the Democrats weren’t able to win in a landslide after Jan 6, and the Supreme Court striking down Roe. This should have been a slaughter.

Given the average voter, it's a miracle. Other than random haphazard gas price spikes due to something specific to oil, there hasn't been this sort of inflation in my usable memory - apparently there was similar in the late 70's but I wasn't controlling the purse strings then. I mean, even McDonald's caved on the $1 drink price now.

Whatever you attribute the inflation to, it sucks. So if 25% or so basically attribute it to "President Biden", that's a very tough margin to overcome. Voters in say, Georgia, just had to cross their fingers it will work out somehow, because Herschel Walker sure ain't gonna fix anything.

Hey - at least the weather is cooperating now - half of Colorado is under avalanche watch, we've been getting a lot of rain here, Tahoe is looking good, and another big drencher is coming this weekend. That's huge, a semi-normal winter in the West could be 2-3% decrease in grocery bills next year because we can actually grow crops, helps the salmon run, etc... not to mention saving a ton of money on fire suppression if we the soil water content gets in line.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2759 on: December 07, 2022, 05:07:53 PM »
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