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wtf is wrong with the right?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2715 on: November 21, 2022, 11:34:11 PM »
I don't know what to call Fox, because you can't say it's news, and you can't call it "soft core porn" either.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2716 on: November 21, 2022, 11:44:39 PM »
I go to the gym 4-5 times a week with a bank of TVs and then do a HIIT class one time a week at another studio with no TVs. I have AirPods in when I’m doing cardio but they have the captions on.

Fox is on the far left TV, the next one is CNN, the next one is MSNBC, and then the three towards the right are on sports channels. Running is boring even while listening to Taylor Swift so I usually switch back and forth watching the three silent news channels because it’s better than watching women’s basketball or replays of Illinois losing.

As someone detached from all the political bullshit, I honestly can’t tell the difference between the bullshit on one from another. It’s all rabid fear mongering. Which makes me laugh because so many people say Fox is doing things one way and everyone else is doing things in an honest, straight forward way.

If anything when I amusedly glance between these programs the rhetoric on CNN and especially MSNBC seems more alarmist and completely focused around Donald Trump (who hasn’t even been in office for almost two years) while Fox is attacking current Biden and the Democrats.

It’s two sides of the same fucking coin. But each side literally thinks the other is fake news and evil. It’s basically Jerry Springer for people over 35.

These aren’t news programs, they’re drama loosely based around some shit that may or may not be actually happening that’s curated and expertly designed to appeal to the people who are stupid enough to watch it thinking they’re getting real information.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2717 on: November 22, 2022, 12:49:02 AM »
I go to the gym 4-5 times a week with a bank of TVs and then do a HIIT class one time a week at another studio with no TVs. I have AirPods in when I’m doing cardio but they have the captions on.

Fox is on the far left TV, the next one is CNN, the next one is MSNBC, and then the three towards the right are on sports channels. Running is boring even while listening to Taylor Swift so I usually switch back and forth watching the three silent news channels because it’s better than watching women’s basketball or replays of Illinois losing.


Aside from the fact that god has provided us with a perfectly good, free, gym called "Outside" where you can run, and don't even need to put gas in the car to get there....

For a while I was burning the midnight oil at work and for some reason someone donated a treadmill. I decided I wanted to watch the Broncos, so what the hell I'll run on the treadmill.

No way. Can't watch sports on a treadmill, any bang bang play and I instinctively flinch and nearly crash. I guess it would probably work if you have the treadmill set really slow, 6+ minute/mile pace or slower, but at any reasonable speed the treadmill could throw you.

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« Reply #2718 on: November 22, 2022, 02:25:08 AM »
We’ve covered this ground before. It’s cold here now and I actually enjoy other people. And apparently I’ve been blessed to be able to run and watch MSNBC.
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« Reply #2719 on: November 22, 2022, 06:33:16 AM »
We’ve covered this ground before. It’s cold here now and I actually enjoy other people. And apparently I’ve been blessed to be able to run and watch MSNBC.

Lol

I almost believe it, MSNBC is trash nowadays. Overtaken by Bush II troglodytes.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #2720 on: November 22, 2022, 07:02:10 AM »
You most certainly belittled Mn. Because he has a different perspective than you on some hot topics you’ve already dismissed as being settled science because that’s what your news outlets of choice have told you are facts. Which you just decried regarding Fox News and their consumers.

I do not watch Fox News so I googled “Fox News Lab Leak Theory” and didn’t find a single hit in the first page of results where Fox News reported the lab leak theory as fact. Only articles where the possibility was broached and some level of “experts” and their research were cited.

You’ve consistently, over time, made this same generic, black and white claim that this over here is bad and this over here is good. But it’s just a feeling based on your own inherent biases, it really isn’t rooted in reality. Yes there are places that rate the news programs by factual information but then again that’s not immune from partisan bias, either. And it’s entirely dependent on sample size and who is choosing the sample itself.

The complete fingers-in-their-ears denial of even discussing the lab leak hypothesis from Fauci, Big Pharma, and the left-leaning MSM literally drove demand for said discussion from those whose spidey senses went off as a result. Fox (among others) appear to have chosen to supply it to meet the demand. The same exact thing happened with the fervent, exaggerated, and wholly premature vaccine claims/mandates.

Now that the dust has settled, it seems there were plenty of legit concerns about all manner of pandemic protocol, vaccine safety, mandate efficacy, the role of Big Pharma in policy making in the midst of record profits, blackballing alternative treatments, etc. So as usual, the truth lies somewhere in the middle, and not with the loudest or whoever controls most of the media.

Anytime things are pushed that hard and legitimate experts who want to have a different discussion are being silenced and blackballed, it raises concerns about the validity of the information (and mandates) that are being shoved down everyone’s throats from a very one-sided perspective. It’s also alarming when Big Tech and the government and other officials have the ability to memory hole all the shit that was wrong. Luckily some people are prescient enough to track some of this stuff, but sadly by the time they can say “Hey look at this stuff” the public’s attention has been shifted elsewhere. Like, say, Ukraine.
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And I might be hard pressed to find much of anything that I've posted obtained from Fox or msm in support of a lab leak or a zoonotic origin.

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« Reply #2721 on: November 22, 2022, 08:53:04 AM »
You most certainly belittled Mn.

According to you, if I  disagree with Mn's ideas, I am belittling him?

But if you imply that I must live in a cave if I disagree with you; that is not is not an insult?

You are not a bit biased, are you?
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« Reply #2722 on: November 22, 2022, 09:38:45 AM »
You most certainly belittled Mn. Because he has a different perspective than you on some hot topics you’ve already dismissed as being settled science because that’s what your news outlets of choice have told you are facts. Which you just decried regarding Fox News and their consumers.

I do not watch Fox News so I googled “Fox News Lab Leak Theory” and didn’t find a single hit in the first page of results where Fox News reported the lab leak theory as fact. Only articles where the possibility was broached and some level of “experts” and their research were cited.

You’ve consistently, over time, made this same generic, black and white claim that this over here is bad and this over here is good. But it’s just a feeling based on your own inherent biases, it really isn’t rooted in reality. Yes there are places that rate the news programs by factual information but then again that’s not immune from partisan bias, either. And it’s entirely dependent on sample size and who is choosing the sample itself.

The complete fingers-in-their-ears denial of even discussing the lab leak hypothesis from Fauci, Big Pharma, and the left-leaning MSM literally drove demand for said discussion from those whose spidey senses went off as a result. Fox (among others) appear to have chosen to supply it to meet the demand. The same exact thing happened with the fervent, exaggerated, and wholly premature vaccine claims/mandates.

Now that the dust has settled, it seems there were plenty of legit concerns about all manner of pandemic protocol, vaccine safety, mandate efficacy, the role of Big Pharma in policy making in the midst of record profits, blackballing alternative treatments, etc. So as usual, the truth lies somewhere in the middle, and not with the loudest or whoever controls most of the media.

Anytime things are pushed that hard and legitimate experts who want to have a different discussion are being silenced and blackballed, it raises concerns about the validity of the information (and mandates) that are being shoved down everyone’s throats from a very one-sided perspective. It’s also alarming when Big Tech and the government and other officials have the ability to memory hole all the shit that was wrong. Luckily some people are prescient enough to track some of this stuff, but sadly by the time they can say “Hey look at this stuff” the public’s attention has been shifted elsewhere. Like, say, Ukraine.

Short on time. I do watch Fox. The Fox articles appear to accept the minority senate report that the lab leak is the most likely. The talking heads pretty much take it as fact.

I have somewhat of a science background among other things.

I form my own opinions.

The natural origin is very likely. Remotely possible an infected bat infected a lab worker and it leaked that way, doubt it.

The mrna vaccines are safe unless one is allergic to delivery ingredients. It may temporarily cause an aberrant form of GBS in a few individuals, or not.

Iirc, there are issues for men of a certain age with at least one of the viral vector vaccines?

Antiparasitics Ivermectin and the quinines showed potential in test tubes, but ...

Pretty much all the media inject a narrative. People have a perspective. Objectivity is a perspective, albeit a useful one, within limits.

I watch a couple Fox shows. No other TV News.  I read a little WaPo and NYT. Might look at Forbes.

 Also, Scientific American, New Scientist, Science.

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« Reply #2723 on: November 22, 2022, 11:18:46 AM »
We’ve covered this ground before. It’s cold here now and I actually enjoy other people. And apparently I’ve been blessed to be able to run and watch MSNBC.

I'm just impressed you can watch TV (or ogle girls) and run on the treadmill, I'd wipe out and it wouldn't be pretty

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« Reply #2724 on: November 22, 2022, 11:21:00 AM »

I watch a couple Fox shows. No other TV News.  I read a little WaPo and NYT. Might look at Forbes.



"No other TV News" implies that Fox is TV News. Facts not in evidence. If by "a couple Fox shows" you mean The Simpsons and Family Guy, we're good

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« Reply #2725 on: November 22, 2022, 02:15:45 PM »
"No other TV News" implies that Fox is TV News. Facts not in evidence. If by "a couple Fox shows" you mean The Simpsons and Family Guy, we're good

Gimme a break. I was in a hurry. I meant TV News including commentary and analysis. I no longer do the Sunday shows or CNN. Never watched MSNBC. I am interested in the views of others. Not interested in being told what to think, much less being told what I think.


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« Reply #2726 on: November 22, 2022, 09:52:27 PM »
This sick kid needed an intervention not guns.  Now we're gonna pay through the nose for the rest of his life.  Wonder what the CBA is on this for the fiscal hawks?

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« Reply #2727 on: November 23, 2022, 08:58:53 AM »
Yeah, but freedumb

"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #2728 on: November 23, 2022, 09:07:01 AM »
Yeah, but freedumb



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« Reply #2729 on: November 23, 2022, 09:08:45 AM »
Those countries suck!

Canada has poutine, Italy has great food and wine.  Japan has hibachi.  Other than that, yeah, they suck.
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