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wtf is wrong with the right?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #1125 on: June 14, 2021, 04:08:59 PM »
What Ilhan Omar Actually Said
No one should believe that Omar thinks the United States is identical to the Taliban.

By Elizabeth Bruenig

"Omar demonstrably did not say what she’s been accused of having said; what she did say was true; and every politico using this opportunity to take a swing at her likely knows those two things—they just think you don’t."
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/06/what-ilhan-omar-actually-said/619196/
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #1126 on: June 14, 2021, 05:39:03 PM »
Shhhh....... don't want to kill their golden goose. 
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #1127 on: June 14, 2021, 05:43:50 PM »
I’m so glad I don’t pay attention to this nonsense
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #1128 on: June 14, 2021, 09:40:40 PM »
Assuming this is the video, the U.S. isn't mentioned in her questions to Blinken.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1401985884191404041

Was the U.S. only mentioned in her tweet to her followers ?


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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #1129 on: June 14, 2021, 10:17:32 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 14, 2021, 04:08:59 PM
What Ilhan Omar Actually Said
No one should believe that Omar thinks the United States is identical to the Taliban.

By Elizabeth Bruenig

"Omar demonstrably did not say what she’s been accused of having said; what she did say was true; and every politico using this opportunity to take a swing at her likely knows those two things—they just think you don’t."
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/06/what-ilhan-omar-actually-said/619196/

Sure seems like she did.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #1130 on: June 15, 2021, 12:51:52 AM »
Quote from: Mn on June 14, 2021, 09:40:40 PM
Assuming this is the video, the U.S. isn't mentioned in her questions to Blinken.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1401985884191404041

Was the U.S. only mentioned in her tweet to her followers ?



One can accuse the US and Israel of bad  acts without saying they are the same as the Taliban and Hamas.

That is the case the article makes. The US has admitted to torture and the murder of civilians.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #1131 on: June 15, 2021, 06:39:42 AM »
I agree that one can say the US and Israel have committed bad acts.

One can also say Omar may have meant what she said ( to Blinken ), and that due to backlash from her tweet her spokespeople may have come up with she didnt mean to say what she said (to her Twitter followers).
The video is available. The US is not mentioned. I see nothing wrong in what she says to Blinken, but I have no idea what Blinken is saying.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #1132 on: June 15, 2021, 01:45:12 PM »
I think Omar Ilhan meant exactly what she said. No more. No less. I don't agree with her. I don't agree with Trump and Pompeo either. I do agree with Blinken.

Omar thinks everyone, including the US and Israel as well as Hamas and the Taliban  should all be held accountable for actions to the International Criminal Court at the Hague. The article I linked agreed with her.

 
« Last Edit: June 15, 2021, 02:15:03 PM by illiniray »
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #1133 on: June 15, 2021, 02:13:46 PM »
« Last Edit: June 15, 2021, 02:34:19 PM by illiniray »
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #1134 on: June 16, 2021, 01:06:31 PM »
What’s the point of Israel?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #1135 on: June 16, 2021, 05:05:07 PM »
Quote from: IlliniGolf on June 16, 2021, 01:06:31 PM
What’s the point of Israel?

Looking like Ilhan and Golf may agree on something.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #1136 on: June 19, 2021, 12:36:13 PM »
Random thoughts

When people are forced to choose between destitute poverty and crappy low paying jobs, isn't that a form of forced labor?

Ross Perot said free trade with Mexico could not work because of an unequal playing field. Wouldn't that also apply to domestic free markets?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #1137 on: June 19, 2021, 01:32:18 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 19, 2021, 12:36:13 PM
Random thoughts

When people are forced to choose between destitute poverty and crappy low paying jobs, isn't that a form of forced labor?


You literally said "choose" in your first sentence... so the answer is no
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #1138 on: June 19, 2021, 02:42:40 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on June 19, 2021, 01:32:18 PM
You literally said "choose" in your first sentence... so the answer is no

There is always a choice. Coercion enters when the alternatives aren't reasonable.

What if someone is asked to work off the clock? The alternative is getting hours cut even more. Their choice.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #1139 on: June 19, 2021, 03:08:30 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 19, 2021, 12:36:13 PM
Random thoughts

When people are forced to choose between destitute poverty and crappy low paying jobs, isn't that a form of forced labor?

Diogenes had it right
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