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wtf is wrong with the right?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8955 on: June 30, 2026, 09:55:42 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 30, 2026, 02:41:10 PM
It is as if neither Tempo nor Nichi have read what the stated positions of the people they are lauding are.....We know Tempo will just excuse it. Nichi?

People who want to seize the means of production are Marxists. They also want a planned economy.

Social Democrats mostly support free enterprise and free markets with some central planning in some sectors.

People who want to do away with government are Anarchists. Far opposite of Marxists.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8956 on: June 30, 2026, 11:16:58 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on June 30, 2026, 11:42:44 AM

FFS dude none of those things are even socialist.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8957 on: June 30, 2026, 11:35:44 PM »
Quote from: Custard on June 30, 2026, 11:16:58 PM
FFS dude none of those things are even socialist.

Trump and Musk still want to get rid of them....
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8958 on: July 01, 2026, 12:48:58 AM »
Quote from: Custard on June 30, 2026, 11:16:58 PM
FFS dude none of those things are even socialist.

LOLOLOLfuckingLOL
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8959 on: July 01, 2026, 12:51:35 AM »
Quote from: Custard on June 30, 2026, 11:16:58 PM
FFS dude none of those things are even socialist.

You obviously weren't around during the debates when Medicare and Social Security were created or expanded. 

Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater, Newt Gingrich and others prominent conservatives at the time characterized Medicare and to a lesser extent Social Security as socialist, socialized, or steps toward socialism.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8960 on: July 01, 2026, 01:23:34 AM »
Hell, he doesn’t even remember 2008 or Covid.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8961 on: July 01, 2026, 07:57:41 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 30, 2026, 09:55:42 PM
People who want to seize the means of production are Marxists. They also want a planned economy.

Social Democrats mostly support free enterprise and free markets with some central planning in some sectors.

People who want to do away with government are Anarchists. Far opposite of Marxists.

Just making my point, Nichi....
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8962 on: July 01, 2026, 10:03:12 AM »
This is so fantastically out of touch. Like Mehdi Hasan said, Dems should turn this into an ad.

https://x.com/MeidasTouch/status/2072077767441854533/video/1?s=46
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8963 on: July 01, 2026, 10:52:58 AM »
Quote from: Reacher on July 01, 2026, 10:03:12 AM
This is so fantastically out of touch. Like Mehdi Hasan said, Dems should turn this into an ad.

https://x.com/MeidasTouch/status/2072077767441854533/video/1?s=46

Yeah, Congressmen work hard. Laughable.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8964 on: July 01, 2026, 10:56:45 AM »
Being wined and dined by lobbyists as they kiss your ass is hard work!
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8965 on: July 01, 2026, 03:52:48 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on July 01, 2026, 12:48:58 AM
LOLOLOLfuckingLOL

Why are you laughing at your frantic self-own? You’re the one who doesn’t seem to know the economic definition of socialism. Just incorrect colloquialisms.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8966 on: July 01, 2026, 04:15:59 PM »
Quote from: Custard on July 01, 2026, 03:52:48 PM
Just incorrect colloquialisms.

Ones that everyone except those devoted to their 7th grade
Social Studies books accept. You heard Alum, Reagan and others called Social Security, Medicare etc socialism. Fire departments, the military, and infrastructure are forms of socialism; whether you want to concede that, or not.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8967 on: July 01, 2026, 04:17:07 PM »
Bailing out big banks is definitely a form of socialism. Letting them collapse would be capitalism.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8968 on: July 01, 2026, 07:58:46 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on July 01, 2026, 04:17:07 PM
Bailing out big banks is definitely a form of socialism. Letting them collapse would be capitalism.

The problem is the bank bailouts aren't done to benefit the poor and working class. They are done protect the wealthy, an example of socializing risks and privatizing profits.

More an example of state or crony capitalism.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8969 on: July 01, 2026, 09:54:03 PM »
Birthing tourism’ they call it,” he said. “A trend where people will just come and you just come onto the soil and have your child, and then they’re able to avail themselves of the welfare state and everything else.”
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