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wtf is wrong with the right?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8595 on: May 09, 2026, 11:04:47 AM »
Actually, he wrote it in a private text message intended to be dark humor. What does this have to do with the topic?

Why wouldn't a lawyer who thinks it's ok to suggest the murder of someone and his kids think that it's also ok to violate The Va Constitution.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8596 on: May 09, 2026, 11:28:46 AM »
Why wouldn't a lawyer who thinks it's ok to suggest the murder of someone and his kids think that it's also ok to violate The Va Constitution.

Do you suppose any Republicans ever indulged in dark humor?

It was not a unanimous vote, and the reasoning was convoluted.

That said, Democrats have generally opposed redistricting before the next Census. Trump and the Republicans started this crap. Democrats are only striving for a level playing field.

I guess we should not be surprised that Trump would have no problems with seeking an unethical advantage, considering he said things like, "Good, I'm glad he's dead", and, "Maybe he's looking up. I don't know."
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8597 on: May 09, 2026, 11:34:03 AM »
You should probably leave that to the experts
I would assume that would be the Va Supreme Court in this instance rather than the Va AG.

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« Reply #8598 on: May 09, 2026, 11:49:42 AM »
I would assume that would be the Va Supreme Court in this instance rather than the Va AG.

I meant reading and interpreting decisions.
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« Reply #8599 on: May 09, 2026, 11:50:08 AM »
I would assume that would be the Va Supreme Court in this instance rather than the Va AG.

I meant reading and interpreting decisions.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8600 on: May 09, 2026, 12:08:13 PM »
I meant reading and interpreting decisions.
I can read "4-3" by the Va Supreme Court and I agree entirely that 4-3 is not unanimous.

And the Va Supreme Court opinion may have been, as you say, "convoluted".
It's still 4-3.

And I can read why the vote occurred, "the Commonwealth has insisted that we cannot lawfully decide this case prior to the referendum"


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« Reply #8601 on: May 09, 2026, 01:24:35 PM »
I'm betting a first year UVA law student knows more about law than Mn. Just a hunch.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8602 on: May 09, 2026, 01:26:20 PM »
Do you suppose any Republicans ever indulged in dark humor?

It was not a unanimous vote, and the reasoning was convoluted.

That said, Democrats have generally opposed redistricting before the next Census. Trump and the Republicans started this crap. Democrats are only striving for a level playing field.

I guess we should not be surprised that Trump would have no problems with seeking an unethical advantage, considering he said things like, "Good, I'm glad he's dead", and, "Maybe he's looking up. I don't know."

If a Republican said that about Obama or AOC it wouldn't have been "dark humor." It would have been an actual opinion.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #8603 on: May 09, 2026, 01:38:28 PM »
From the other 98%

This is what happened in ONE DAY in this country. The Virginia Supreme Court struck down redistricting maps that voters approved through a hard-fought referendum. The will of the people, tossed.

Tennessee Republicans passed a map eliminating the state's only Black-majority congressional district so fast that one rep literally wore a MAGA flag as a cape while doing it. Tennessee is now 9-0 Republican congressionally. In a state that is 17% Black. Alabama Republicans pushed their own redistricting bill forward during a tornado siren, couldn't even wait for the all-clear.

And in Louisiana, the Supreme Court fast-tracked the gutting of a Black-majority district so aggressively that they tossed out the existing map while votes had already been cast.

Tens of thousands of ballots. Already submitted. Didn't matter.

This is what it looks like when one side plays for keeps and the other side writes press releases about "respecting the process."

Republicans don't win arguments. They don't need to. They take territory and never give it back.

Every procedural hurdle that stops Democrats dead in their tracks doesn't even register for Republicans. When they want to gerrymander, state legislators vote yes in lockstep and it's done by lunch.

When Democrats want to do it, it takes a months-long referendum campaign, millions of dollars, and a prayer that a packed court doesn't throw it out anyway.

The Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act,  legislation that was paid for in blood on the Edmund Pettus Bridge. And within days, every red state in the South started racing to eliminate Black representation like it was a fire sale.

Democrats might win the midterms. They might even take the House. But the sea level is still rising. The structural tilt, 30+ extra House seats, 10+ extra Senate seats for Republicans beyond what proportional representation would give them, that doesn't go away with one good election cycle. It means Democrats have to win by 10-14 points just to break even.

One side grabs everything. The other lets it slip through their fingers like sand.

This isn't the death of a party. It's the unraveling of the republic. And if you're not paying attention, you will be soon,  because this is coming for everyone.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8604 on: May 09, 2026, 02:07:07 PM »
Charlotte Bergmann, who has been the Republican candidate running against Steve Cohen in every House race since 2018, is once again running in the Republican primary for the 2026 election.

Steve Cohen is the Democrat rep from Memphis for close to 20 years.



Charlotte Bergmann.


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« Reply #8605 on: May 09, 2026, 02:46:35 PM »
If a Republican said that about Obama or AOC it wouldn't have been "dark humor." It would have been an actual opinion.
Which Republican was it that said it about Obama or AOC ?

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« Reply #8606 on: May 09, 2026, 04:46:07 PM »
In December 2016, Carl Paladino, a millionaire real estate developer who unsuccessfully ran for NY governor in 2010 as a Republican, and who co-chaired Donald Trump's NY state campaign said he hoped "Obama catches mad cow disease after being caught having relations with a Hereford [a type of cattle], dies and is buried in a cow pasture".

In 2017, he wrote that he wanted Michelle Obama to "return to being a male and let loose in the outback of Zimbabwe where she lives comfortably in a cave with Maxie, the gorilla".

In November 2021, the House of Representatives voted to censure Paul Gosar. This action followed his posting of an edited anime video on social media that depicted him committing violence against Ocasio-Cortez.
 
In 2019,:Trump said AOC and others should "go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came".

Trump promoted birtherism and tried to blame it on Hillary Clinton..
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8607 on: May 09, 2026, 05:26:47 PM »
Which Republican was it that said it about Obama or AOC ?

Why can’t they answer the question?

https://x.com/BulwarkOnline/status/2053173860975972661/video/1?s=46
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #8609 on: May 09, 2026, 07:32:53 PM »
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.