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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8295 on: December 26, 2025, 01:35:01 PM »
I think you need to reread what I actually wrote. I didn’t say it was solely on us, but it almost certainly hurt us the most. Maybe it was just draconian measures that magically raised the floor for their product prices and also demonstrated our overdependence on them. At least we are getting that sorted out now.

quote author=Custard link=topic=62.msg170147#msg170147 date=1766556165]

China essentially engaged in economic warfare on us with their zero tolerance policies that constrained supply chains needlessly for way too long. No one seems to remember that sham.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8296 on: December 26, 2025, 04:48:38 PM »
quote author=Custard link=topic=62.msg170147#msg170147 date=1766556165]

China essentially engaged in economic warfare on us with their zero tolerance policies that constrained supply chains needlessly for way too long. No one seems to remember that sham.


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Nowhere did I state that they didn’t do the same things to other countries. But we, being their largest customer, got hurt the worst. I’m not even sure what the disagreement here is about. It’s pretty cut and dried and the decoupling from China we are initiating is probably a good thing.
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« Reply #8297 on: December 26, 2025, 04:59:26 PM »
Nowhere did I state that they didn’t do the same things to other countries. But we, being their largest customer, got hurt the worst. I’m not even sure what the disagreement here is about. It’s pretty cut and dried and the decoupling from China we are initiating is probably a good thing.

I'm disputing that they essentially engaged in economic warfare against us. If there were no The COVID, nothing would have changed. As there was The COVID, they took draconian measures to combat it. Just in Time Supply Chain Strategy was the collateral damage.

I do not agree that decoupling is a bad idea, but they do seem to be running circles around us in Africa and cornering the metals/raw minerals etc. market due to the idiotic America First idiotology. Even the Pedo in Chief is seemingly realizing his fuck up and taken a far less hawkish attitude towards China. This is going to be far more damaging in the long run.
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« Reply #8298 on: December 26, 2025, 11:15:37 PM »
I'm disputing that they essentially engaged in economic warfare against us. If there were no The COVID, nothing would have changed. As there was The COVID, they took draconian measures to combat it. Just in Time Supply Chain Strategy was the collateral damage.

I do not agree that decoupling is a bad idea, but they do seem to be running circles around us in Africa and cornering the metals/raw minerals etc. market due to the idiotic America First idiotology. Even the Pedo in Chief is seemingly realizing his fuck up and taken a far less hawkish attitude towards China. This is going to be far more damaging in the long run.

What makes you so sure there weren’t ulterior motives to the draconian measures taken that were at odds with the entire rest of the industrial world (that just so happened to depend heavily on them)

There was so much rampant collusion fuckery going on with “supply chain disruption” that the Chinese and American brokers that controlled upstream supply (including freight) were making fuck you money while they buttfucked the american lower and middle classes even more than normal.

And in response, America printed 4 trillion, devalued our currency, supercharged inflation, had rampant relief fraud, wrecked the housing market for young millennials and Gen Z, jacked interest rates, jacked cost of higher education, let somewhere between 4 and 20 million people stream across our southern border, looted and rioted and burned down numerous city centers, toppled statues of important historical figures, and changed ALL SORTS OF FUCKING NAMES of historical stuff (gasp)

Yeah, China did a number on us. And people wonder why Trump is being so gosh darned difficult on the poor folks.  Trump or no Trump, almost anyone important still would rather do business with us than China on the shit that actually matters. We are taking the power back.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8299 on: December 27, 2025, 09:08:43 AM »
“Only the best people” was a complete lie.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8300 on: December 27, 2025, 10:24:40 AM »
What makes you so sure there weren’t ulterior motives to the draconian measures taken that were at odds with the entire rest of the industrial world (that just so happened to depend heavily on them)

There was so much rampant collusion fuckery going on with “supply chain disruption” that the Chinese and American brokers that controlled upstream supply (including freight) were making fuck you money while they buttfucked the american lower and middle classes even more than normal.

And in response, America printed 4 trillion, devalued our currency, supercharged inflation, had rampant relief fraud, wrecked the housing market for young millennials and Gen Z, jacked interest rates, jacked cost of higher education, let somewhere between 4 and 20 million people stream across our southern border, looted and rioted and burned down numerous city centers, toppled statues of important historical figures, and changed ALL SORTS OF FUCKING NAMES of historical stuff (gasp)

Yeah, China did a number on us. And people wonder why Trump is being so gosh darned difficult on the poor folks.  Trump or no Trump, almost anyone important still would rather do business with us than China on the shit that actually matters. We are taking the power back.

Because there was pandemic and the Chinese thought they could control it by making everyone stay home. They were wrong.

It is not as it their economy came out unscathed. The fact is many countries decided to look elesewhere after The COVID to diversify in the event the Commies lowered the boom in the future. The pivot to control raw materials in Africa may be a result of that or merely opportunity.

Blame Trump for making COVID payments to everyone. The housing market is what it is. Don't think The COVID has much to do with it. Ironically, his inmigration raids are doing quite further damage as construction companies in Texas are bitching about having no workforce.

Important historical figures? You mean traitorous scum. Lincoln should have called for all those fuckers', and their families', execution. That's what Trump would have done

Not sure that everyone wants to do business with us anynore..... Well done assholes!

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8301 on: December 27, 2025, 12:36:55 PM »
AI overview

Virtually every country implemented some form of lockdown or major restrictions to stop COVID-19, including China, Italy, India, Australia, Canada, France, Argentina, and many others globally, with some notable exceptions like Japan or Sweden taking lighter approaches, but the vast majority worldwide enforced strict stays-at-home and business closures in 2020 to curb the pandemic's spread.

Examples of Countries That Locked Down:

Asia: China (Wuhan), India, Malaysia, Indonesia, Cambodia.

Europe: Italy, France, Ireland, Austria, Denmark.

Americas: Argentina, Canada, USA (state/city level).

Oceania: Australia (strict state lockdowns).

Africa: Ghana, Namibia, South Africa.

Key Points:

Global Phenomenon: Lockdowns were a near-universal public health response, with almost all nations enacting some form of movement restrictions.

Varying Strictness: The severity and duration differed, from China's severe, centralized lockdowns to Australia's state-based measures, but restrictions were widespread.

Purpose: To slow transmission, prevent healthcare systems from being overwhelmed, and buy time for vaccine development.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8302 on: December 27, 2025, 12:50:06 PM »
On Important historical figures, humans seem to be programmed in binary logic; which causes us to overcorrect.
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« Reply #8303 on: December 27, 2025, 03:35:41 PM »
Because there was pandemic and the Chinese thought they could control it by making everyone stay home. They were wrong.

I don’t think it’s that simple, agree to disagree

It is not as it their economy came out unscathed. The fact is many countries decided to look elesewhere after The COVID to diversify in the event the Commies lowered the boom in the future. The pivot to control raw materials in Africa may be a result of that or merely opportunity.

Not unscathed but they raised the floor of their prices and conditioned billions of people around the world to pay more and wait longer for goods. Creating supply chain issues created inflation that was fueled by printing all the money here at home.

Blame Trump for making COVID payments to everyone. The housing market is what it is. Don't think The COVID has much to do with it. Ironically, his inmigration raids are doing quite further damage as construction companies in Texas are bitching about having no workforce.

A lot of the money was printed under Trump. The Biden act made it even worse. The money should have never been printed because we should have never shut down the economy. And the places that shut down the economy the longest and hurt their businesses and people the most were the blue states. “Two weeks to flatten the curve” turned into “we better just wait for a vaccine.”

Printing trillions during COVID absolutely supercharged the housing market. Look at a chart sometime. The only way we could cool it down was crank interest to damn near 10% and allow inventory to catch up.

There have never been more unemployed young men as there are right now relative to jobs available. Maybe they should stop playing video games and get a fucking job.


Important historical figures? You mean traitorous scum. Lincoln should have called for all those fuckers', and their families', execution. That's what Trump would have done

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Not sure that everyone wants to do business with us anynore..... Well done assholes!

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Yeah they’re pissed off they aren’t able to take advantage of us anymore and we make them pay their fair share for defense (like they agreed to but didn’t do) and we showed them who is boss. Of course they’re gonna bitch.
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« Reply #8304 on: December 27, 2025, 03:37:57 PM »
On Important historical figures, humans seem to be programmed in binary logic; which causes us to overcorrect.

I don’t suppose the evolution towards teaching that the Civil War was simply about slavery and that white people are the most tyrannical race of all time had anything to do with it.
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« Reply #8305 on: December 27, 2025, 08:45:14 PM »
I don’t suppose the evolution towards teaching that the Civil War was simply about slavery and that white people are the most tyrannical race of all time had anything to do with it.

You just gave 2 examples of bipolar thinking and overcorrection..
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #8308 on: December 29, 2025, 02:46:50 PM »
I’m guessing some of you will beef with this, but I think I can guess who this guy enthusiastically voted for.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #8309 on: December 29, 2025, 02:49:21 PM »
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.