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wtf is wrong with the right?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8115 on: October 31, 2025, 01:55:19 PM »
https://www.mediaite.com/media/tv/marjorie-taylor-greene-lashes-out-at-pathetic-republican-men/

LOL.

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There are pathetic Republican men (mostly paid social media influencers) attacking me for going on Bill Maher’s show and The View.

Here is my voting card and nothing has changed about me, I’m 1,000,000% America ONLY.

Sorry I’m not sorry I don’t obey Republican men’s demands that I, as a woman, don’t remain seen but not heard.

It is not as if she is talking about football....
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8116 on: October 31, 2025, 02:09:17 PM »
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8117 on: October 31, 2025, 03:05:40 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 31, 2025, 01:55:19 PM
https://www.mediaite.com/media/tv/marjorie-taylor-greene-lashes-out-at-pathetic-republican-men/

LOL.

It is not as if she is talking about football....

Pretty ironic that MTG is lashing out at anyone for being pathetic.

She's not wrong though
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8118 on: October 31, 2025, 04:08:43 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 31, 2025, 01:55:19 PM
https://www.mediaite.com/media/tv/marjorie-taylor-greene-lashes-out-at-pathetic-republican-men/

LOL.

It is not as if she is talking about football....

She appears to be carving out a unique space in the political spectrum.  Too many other Republicans started crowding her lane.

I think she has a grown child who uses ACA subsidies for health insurance.  She must have gotten an earful from some of her constituents.who also rely on the subsidies.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8119 on: October 31, 2025, 05:16:52 PM »
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8120 on: November 01, 2025, 08:53:11 AM »
Where is the lie?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8121 on: November 01, 2025, 10:32:39 AM »
Mn brings receipts and the lefties here can’t handle it.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8122 on: November 01, 2025, 10:57:24 AM »
Quote from: Custard on November 01, 2025, 10:32:39 AM
Mn brings receipts and the lefties here can’t handle it.
Lol
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8123 on: November 01, 2025, 11:47:01 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on October 31, 2025, 09:22:57 AM
No one's overview ......

"Schwab, noting that ICE arrested 232 of roughly 1,000 undocumented immigrants it set out to detain that day. “But what they publicly said was that [Schaaf] let people go. Not true.”
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/former-ice-spokesman-speaks-out-i-was-asked-to-perpetuate-a-flat-out-lie_n_5b34ca4ee4b0cb56051fecd8

The Homan comment in the press release ....
"Thanks to the dedicated and professional work of ICE deportation officers, we were able to remove many public safety threats from the streets of the Bay Area during the past few days. However, 864 criminal aliens and public safety threats remain at large in the community, and I have to believe that some of them were able to elude us thanks to the mayor’s irresponsible decision.
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-statement-immigration-enforcement-activities-northern-california

Schwab: ICE set out to detain 1000 .....

Homan: I have to believe .......

One of the arrests: "Among those arrested was ICE fugitive Armando Nuñez-Salgado, 38, a citizen of Mexico and documented Sureño gang member, who has been previously removed by ICE on four prior occasions."

Wednesday ....
Apparently the investigation has been going on since before the Schaaf warning about ICE.
"Nine Alleged Oakland Sureño Gang Members Charged With Racketeering Conspiracy In Connection With Murders And Related Crimes
Wednesday, October 29, 2025

"Gonzalo Pablo for his role in the November 22, 2018, attempted murder of an unidentified victim;
Cesar Rolando Lucas-Pablo, Jeronimo “Orlando” Pablo-Carrillo, and Carlos Ramiro-Mendoza for their respective roles in the January 5, 2019, murder of a victim identified as “R.B.P.”;
Carlos Ramiro-Mendoza and Jeronimo “Orlando” Pablo-Carillo for their respective roles in the January 19, 2019, murder of a victim identified as “S.R.J.”; .........

A question for ex-agent Schwab. You stated that 1000 people were expected to be detained. Is it possible that the Mayor's warning prevented these people from being detained ?
If so, the murder victims may be alive today.

"The lie: Schwab claimed he was asked to help craft a statement that some targets eluded ICE due to Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf's warning about upcoming raids, but later, Attorney General Jeff Sessions presented a different, "completely false" account that ICE failed to make 800 arrests because of the mayor."

"The pressure: When Schwab asked for the discrepancy to be corrected, he was instructed to refer to his original statement without disputing Sessions' version, which he considered a "flat-out lie"."

"The outcome: Troubled by what he perceived as public deception, Schwab resigned, stating he could not be part of an organization that was comfortable lying to the American public."

"Subsequent events: In a later interview with CBS News, which was interrupted by Homeland Security investigators visiting his home, Schwab stated he had never been asked to lie in his 17 years in government service prior to this incident."

Note also that 'News reports from May and October 2025 have widely accused Tricia McLaughlin, the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs, of lying or making false statements regarding several incidents and immigration claims."
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8124 on: November 02, 2025, 07:58:28 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on November 01, 2025, 11:47:01 PM
"The lie: Schwab claimed he was asked to help craft a statement that some targets eluded ICE due to Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf's warning about upcoming raids, but later, Attorney General Jeff Sessions presented a different, "completely false" account that ICE failed to make 800 arrests because of the mayor."

"The pressure: When Schwab asked for the discrepancy to be corrected, he was instructed to refer to his original statement without disputing Sessions' version, which he considered a "flat-out lie"."

"The outcome: Troubled by what he perceived as public deception, Schwab resigned, stating he could not be part of an organization that was comfortable lying to the American public."

"Subsequent events: In a later interview with CBS News, which was interrupted by Homeland Security investigators visiting his home, Schwab stated he had never been asked to lie in his 17 years in government service prior to this incident."

Note also that 'News reports from May and October 2025 have widely accused Tricia McLaughlin, the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs, of lying or making false statements regarding several incidents and immigration claims."

The ICE guy said they expected to detain 1000, sided with the mayor after the mayor warned the community and said that ICE failed to make 800 arrests because of the mayor.

Sessions, in a speech to the California Peace Officers Association, said "Those are 800 wanted criminals that are now at large in that community — 800 wanted criminals that ICE will now have to pursue by other means, with more difficulty in dangerous situations — all because of one irresponsible action,” Sessions said.

Were those 800 still at large ?
Yes.

Did Schwab say they 'expected' to detain 1000 ?
Yes.

Did Sessions say the mayor 'let 800 go' ?
You have to catch them before you can let them go but, yeah, I don't think she has the power to 'let them go'.
Do you have the quote somewhere ?

Are expectations guaranteed to produce the expected result ?
Yeah, I don't think so.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8125 on: November 02, 2025, 01:53:25 PM »
Quote from: Custard on November 01, 2025, 10:32:39 AM
Mn brings receipts and the lefties here can’t handle it.

No - PAMan and I were the only person producing  actual receipts
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8126 on: November 02, 2025, 04:09:52 PM »
Reading comprehension skills help. It's not complicated. ICE allegedly lied. Schwab said he was pressured to lie. They even came to his house when he was being interviewed. Sounds like intimidation. Tricia McLaughlin seemingly has continued the policy of dreceiving the public.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8127 on: November 02, 2025, 07:56:55 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on November 02, 2025, 04:09:52 PM
Reading comprehension skills help.

You’re in the wrong place for that, friend.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8128 on: November 03, 2025, 06:16:54 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on November 02, 2025, 04:09:52 PM
Reading comprehension skills help. It's not complicated. ICE allegedly lied. Schwab said he was pressured to lie. They even came to his house when he was being interviewed. Sounds like intimidation. Tricia McLaughlin seemingly has continued the policy of dreceiving the public.


I see you've changed "the lie" part to "allegedly lied."
Schwab "said ..."

We were expecting to detain 1000 but the mayor let 800 of them go. Lol
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8129 on: November 03, 2025, 07:53:57 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on November 03, 2025, 06:16:54 AM
I see you've changed "the lie" part to "allegedly lied."
Schwab "said ..."

We were expecting to detain 1000 but the mayor let 800 of them go. Lol

You probably meant to say I allegedly changed it. I am going by what the AI wrote. I didn't change shit.

If we are going to be accurate, none of us have first hand knowledge of the events. Though Schwab's alleged  version of events comes across as consistent and credible.

The pattern of deception seems to continue from Trump's first term. Would it be excessive to say it has escalated?

The disturbing part is when it goes beyond the normal spin cycle we expect, to flat out lying.

Don't you ever get tired of being lied to?

lol at that.
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