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wtf is wrong with the right?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #7201 on: August 28, 2025, 12:47:45 PM »
its very important, as trans people kill themselves or others at an alarmingly high rate
so do poor people.

You might be on to something

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #7202 on: August 28, 2025, 12:48:52 PM »
OK, this is totally fucked up. ICE shows up to an active fire line, and pulls people from the fire line to demand IDs, and hauls off 2 guys for unspecified reasons.

The battalion commander should have deputized those fuckers and given them a shovel. Pretty sure Team Noem would be too pussy to do that work.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #7203 on: August 28, 2025, 12:50:59 PM »
Not sure this is the hill upon which to wage war....

https://nypost.com/2025/08/28/us-news/minneapolis-school-shooter-robin-westman-confessed-he-was-tired-of-being-trans/

Transgender mass shooter Robin Westman confessed that he “was tired of being trans” and wished he “never brain-washed” himself in a manifesto posted online before he slaughtered two children and wounded dozens more at a Minneapolis church.

In a twisted handwritten journal he shared on YouTube before the massacre — much of which is encrypted in a homespun code of Russian Cyrillic script and English words — Westman groaned about his long hair and his decision to transition.

“I only keep [the long hair] because it is pretty much my last shred of being trans. I am tired of being trans, I wish I never brain-washed myself,” he wrote, according to a translation by The Post.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #7204 on: August 28, 2025, 01:00:07 PM »
Not sure this is the hill upon which to wage war....

https://nypost.com/2025/08/28/us-news/minneapolis-school-shooter-robin-westman-confessed-he-was-tired-of-being-trans/

Transgender mass shooter Robin Westman confessed that he “was tired of being trans” and wished he “never brain-washed” himself in a manifesto posted online before he slaughtered two children and wounded dozens more at a Minneapolis church.

In a twisted handwritten journal he shared on YouTube before the massacre — much of which is encrypted in a homespun code of Russian Cyrillic script and English words — Westman groaned about his long hair and his decision to transition.

“I only keep [the long hair] because it is pretty much my last shred of being trans. I am tired of being trans, I wish I never brain-washed myself,” he wrote, according to a translation by The Post.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #7205 on: August 28, 2025, 01:33:18 PM »
Not sure this is the hill upon which to wage war....

https://nypost.com/2025/08/28/us-news/minneapolis-school-shooter-robin-westman-confessed-he-was-tired-of-being-trans/

Transgender mass shooter Robin Westman confessed that he “was tired of being trans” and wished he “never brain-washed” himself in a manifesto posted online before he slaughtered two children and wounded dozens more at a Minneapolis church.

In a twisted handwritten journal he shared on YouTube before the massacre — much of which is encrypted in a homespun code of Russian Cyrillic script and English words — Westman groaned about his long hair and his decision to transition.

“I only keep [the long hair] because it is pretty much my last shred of being trans. I am tired of being trans, I wish I never brain-washed myself,” he wrote, according to a translation by The Post.

Lots of people feel shitty about their lives. 

And it looks like the shooter may have been an equal opportunity hater.  Westman had anti-Black, anti-Latino, and anti-LGBTQ slurs written on his magazines.   

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #7206 on: August 28, 2025, 01:39:53 PM »
Most info I have seen views transgendered people as victims, not perpetrators of violence.

Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder, not a mental illness.

There have been high profile cases of transgendered people commiting violent crimes. That doesn't necessarily means they are innately more prone to violence than anyone else.

I did come across one right wing article that tried to associate gender dysphoria with personality disorders.



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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #7207 on: August 28, 2025, 01:59:07 PM »
Lots of people feel shitty about their lives. 

And it looks like the shooter may have been an equal opportunity hater.  Westman had anti-Black, anti-Latino, and anti-LGBTQ slurs written on his magazines.

Maybe he was just evil?  /s

Seriously, people who look, come across as, or feel different often struggle in our culture; which tends to demand sameness.

AI Overview

People who are perceived or feel different often face significant struggles in society due to social stigma, marginalization, and the pressure to conform. This can lead to a variety of psychological and social challenges.

The sources of feeling different
Individuals can feel different based on many factors, including:

Cultural identity: People, especially those with bicultural or multiracial backgrounds, may feel alienated from both their heritage and the dominant culture. This can lead to identity conflict and pressure to "code-switch" or hide aspects of their identity.

Neurodiversity: Neurodivergent people, such as those with ADHD or on the autism spectrum, can experience a fear of being perceived and judged for their behaviors. This often leads to masking, emotional exhaustion, and feelings of not fitting in.

Mental health: Stigma surrounding mental illness can cause feelings of shame and unworthiness. This can prevent people from seeking help and lead to further social rejection, isolation, and a worsening of symptoms.

Marginalized groups: People belonging to historically marginalized groups based on race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, or gender identity may experience systemic oppression and discrimination. This can cause chronic stress, depression, and anxiety.

Other personal characteristics: This includes a wide array of personal attributes, such as disability, physical appearance, or socioeconomic status, that deviate from perceived norms.

The struggles associated with being different.
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The experience of being different can lead to several negative outcomes:

Social and psychological harm: Stigma is a powerful force that can affect a person's self-perception, leading to psychological distress, low self-esteem, depression, and anxiety. It can also foster a constant fear of shame or judgment.

Discrimination and exclusion: This can manifest in many areas of life, including employment, housing, and social interactions. In a professional setting, perceived discrimination can be particularly stressful.

Barriers to care: Stigma, distrust of healthcare systems, and lack of culturally competent providers can prevent or delay individuals from seeking treatment for mental and physical health issues, which can worsen outcomes.

Stereotype threat: When people are aware of negative stereotypes about their group, they can experience anxiety that negatively affects their performance in various areas, such as academics or physical tasks.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #7208 on: August 28, 2025, 02:48:58 PM »
Not sure this is the hill upon which to wage war....

https://nypost.com/2025/08/28/us-news/minneapolis-school-shooter-robin-westman-confessed-he-was-tired-of-being-trans/

Transgender mass shooter Robin Westman confessed that he “was tired of being trans” and wished he “never brain-washed” himself in a manifesto posted online before he slaughtered two children and wounded dozens more at a Minneapolis church.

In a twisted handwritten journal he shared on YouTube before the massacre — much of which is encrypted in a homespun code of Russian Cyrillic script and English words — Westman groaned about his long hair and his decision to transition.

“I only keep [the long hair] because it is pretty much my last shred of being trans. I am tired of being trans, I wish I never brain-washed myself,” he wrote, according to a translation by The Post.

Right thinking - "See, this person transitioned and it fucked them up"
Left thinking - "This person transitioned, at which point they were vilified to the point where they hated themselves ... e.g. the right fucked them up"


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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #7209 on: August 28, 2025, 02:54:19 PM »
Right thinking - "See, this person transitioned and it fucked them up"
Left thinking - "This person transitioned, at which point they were vilified to the point where they hated themselves ... e.g. the right fucked them up"

Sounds like he was an idiot for a long time.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #7210 on: August 28, 2025, 02:59:04 PM »
Maybe he was just evil?  /s

Seriously, people who look, come across as, or feel different often struggle in our culture; which tends to demand sameness.

AI Overview

People who are perceived or feel different often face significant struggles in society due to social stigma, marginalization, and the pressure to conform. This can lead to a variety of psychological and social challenges.

The sources of feeling different
Individuals can feel different based on many factors, including:

Cultural identity: People, especially those with bicultural or multiracial backgrounds, may feel alienated from both their heritage and the dominant culture. This can lead to identity conflict and pressure to "code-switch" or hide aspects of their identity.

Neurodiversity: Neurodivergent people, such as those with ADHD or on the autism spectrum, can experience a fear of being perceived and judged for their behaviors. This often leads to masking, emotional exhaustion, and feelings of not fitting in.

Mental health: Stigma surrounding mental illness can cause feelings of shame and unworthiness. This can prevent people from seeking help and lead to further social rejection, isolation, and a worsening of symptoms.

Marginalized groups: People belonging to historically marginalized groups based on race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, or gender identity may experience systemic oppression and discrimination. This can cause chronic stress, depression, and anxiety.

Other personal characteristics: This includes a wide array of personal attributes, such as disability, physical appearance, or socioeconomic status, that deviate from perceived norms.

The struggles associated with being different.
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The experience of being different can lead to several negative outcomes:

Social and psychological harm: Stigma is a powerful force that can affect a person's self-perception, leading to psychological distress, low self-esteem, depression, and anxiety. It can also foster a constant fear of shame or judgment.

Discrimination and exclusion: This can manifest in many areas of life, including employment, housing, and social interactions. In a professional setting, perceived discrimination can be particularly stressful.

Barriers to care: Stigma, distrust of healthcare systems, and lack of culturally competent providers can prevent or delay individuals from seeking treatment for mental and physical health issues, which can worsen outcomes.

Stereotype threat: When people are aware of negative stereotypes about their group, they can experience anxiety that negatively affects their performance in various areas, such as academics or physical tasks.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #7211 on: August 28, 2025, 03:40:43 PM »
Sounds like he was an idiot for a long time.

All the cops and National Guard in the world aren't gonna fix that. Maybe we call off the cops and fund more mental help

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #7212 on: August 28, 2025, 09:27:26 PM »
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has falsely claimed that vaccine research caused the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic. He made this assertion in June 2023 during an online meeting with anti-vaccine activists.

This claim is not supported by scientific or historical evidence. The 1918 influenza pandemic was caused by a virus, while the vaccines available at the time were ineffective and based on a mistaken understanding of the cause of influenza.

Key facts about the 1918 pandemic and vaccines:

Cause of the 1918 flu: The 1918 flu was caused by an H1N1 virus with genes of avian origin. The technology to identify viruses did not yet exist, and scientists incorrectly believed the flu was caused by the Pfeiffer's bacillus bacteria.

Vaccines in 1918: Based on the incorrect assumption that bacteria caused the flu, scientists developed and widely distributed ineffective bacterial vaccines during the pandemic. These vaccines did not cause the pandemic and had no effect on the flu virus.

RFK Jr.'s shifting statements: While Kennedy has promoted unsubstantiated theories in certain forums, he has sometimes moderated his views in larger public settings. For example, when questioned by Congress in July 2023, he denied being "anti-vax" and said he has never told the public to avoid vaccination.

RFK Jr. is known for spreading misinformation about vaccines and other health topics. He has repeatedly promoted unfounded theories that contradict mainstream scientific and public health consensus.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #7213 on: August 28, 2025, 10:25:28 PM »
Will the last qualified scientist/doctor to leave the CDC, please turn out the lights.

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« Reply #7214 on: August 28, 2025, 10:59:27 PM »
He shot up a Catholic Church. At some point if you have an entire Religion, backed by the US President, telling you that you're a sicko wacko, it becomes reality.

Your choice. You can hold the line on policing your morality and can create more wackos and chaos, or you can help people and prevent the psychosis. Then again, you think the trans person is the psychosis, and stomping them down is worth a few dead kids. I mean, they aren't even Evangelicals amirite?

What’s absolutely hilarious about this post is that I have called over and over and over for more mental help for these people while you and Alum and Ray have insisted they should just be accepted/celebrated for who they think they are.
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