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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6825 on: May 13, 2025, 08:31:13 PM »
My cousin worked for the county (ran the jail eventually). I remember when he had a baby 20 years ago. Cost him a $10 copay.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6826 on: May 13, 2025, 08:41:59 PM »
Quote from: Custard’s Uber Driver on May 13, 2025, 08:05:52 PM
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Don’t these people know the best healthcare in the world is FREE?!

And I would bet that number is significantly higher.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6827 on: May 13, 2025, 08:47:18 PM »
We don't actually have the best health care. We rank in the top 40..Wedo  have the most expensive.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6828 on: May 13, 2025, 09:40:55 PM »
Quote from: Custard’s Uber Driver on May 13, 2025, 08:30:09 PM
It’s BASICALLY FREE (for everyone), Murph!

And actually, the middle and working class people are squeezed the hardest. Healthcare is expensive before you’ve even used it. He might be right about one thing, you might be better off just being poor.

No.

someone in the middle class probably can figure out how to at least get regular dental visits. The poor just let their teeth go to shit, and aren't even thinking "I need to go to the dentist every 6 months". Then when their teeth go to pot, that's a highway to death. I'm not talking "bad teeth", i mean pulled teeth because they get abcesses and prosthetic dentistry is VERY expensive and not covered by any insurance unless you got some serious serious insurance. So they have no teeth, which impacts diet, causes infections, etc...

Someone in the middle class might put off some GP stuff unless it's pretty obviously bad, but that might still outstrip just going to the ER when you're basically dead. Yes, there are probably examples of someone who's poor who has a tummy ache and just says "ok, lets go to the ER" and the hospital chews up a $1000 bill for "you have the stomach flu, take some advil and wait it out like everyone else does" (which is $1000 because of all the weird graft in the system, and maybe to get people to go to a GP instead of the ER, but poor people don't have a GP, and so on). That's a symptom of our system being so fubar.

One thing I have to make me think it gets better. When AI replaces a lot of white collar jobs, maybe more people go into medicine and drive the costs down just by dint of supply of doctors and nurses.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6829 on: May 13, 2025, 09:41:47 PM »
Quote from: Custard’s Uber Driver on May 13, 2025, 08:31:13 PM
My cousin worked for the county (ran the jail eventually). I remember when he had a baby 20 years ago. Cost him a $10 copay.

I'm not sure what I'm more astounded by, the $10 copay or the trans-man having a baby.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6830 on: May 13, 2025, 09:42:32 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 13, 2025, 08:47:18 PM
We don't actually have the best health care. We rank in the top 40..Wedo  have the most expensive.

If you have a lot of money, it can be pretty damn good. But you're probably overpaying.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6831 on: May 13, 2025, 10:31:39 PM »
From what I can gather, Medicaid is generally not very good. Finding a care giver is problematic. The best doctors are usually not going to accept it. So the options are often young and experienced, or else  the shady types. If recipients find a caregiver, it might be far from home, and these are people who frequently have transportation problems.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6832 on: May 14, 2025, 12:24:13 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on May 13, 2025, 04:20:15 PM
Essentially unregulated immigration. That's why dozen of my co-workers, who pay hundreds of thousands of dollars annually in income taxes, have to go back to their country of origin every 24 months, sit around for 3 weeks to wait for someone to stamp their visa booklet, while we have to arrange to do meetings at 6 AM or 8 PM, then return. That unregulated immigration system?

I needed a hip replacement. It was very obvious. I went to the ortho, bypassing my GP. He looked at the X-ray that was taken that day, sent me down for a CT-scan, which was done in 15 minutes, it showed up on the computer, he said yep, are you free 2 weeks from Wednesday, I said yes, I went in, had the procedure done, inpatient with an overnight stay, and had 4 weeks of PT.

Total out of pocket for me - $1500. Paid with pre-tax money.

Let me know when any of America's poor get that level of care.

Well-crafted anecdotal deflection, but deflection all the same.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6833 on: May 14, 2025, 12:25:49 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 13, 2025, 08:47:18 PM
We don't actually have the best health care. We rank in the top 40..Wedo  have the most expensive.

We have “the best” for those that can afford it.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6834 on: May 14, 2025, 07:54:11 AM »
Quote from: Custard’s Uber Driver on May 14, 2025, 12:25:49 AM
We have “the best” for those that can afford it.

Nothing like an incentive to go to school to get an education and a decent job, is there?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6835 on: May 14, 2025, 08:39:52 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 14, 2025, 07:54:11 AM
Nothing like an incentive to go to school to get an education and a decent job, is there?
Or go to trade school to learn a trade.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6836 on: May 14, 2025, 10:39:15 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on May 14, 2025, 08:39:52 AM
Or go to trade school to learn a trade.

That counts as an education in my book.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6837 on: May 14, 2025, 11:31:56 AM »
Quote from: Custard on May 14, 2025, 12:24:13 AM
Well-crafted anecdotal deflection, but deflection all the same.

Not an anecdote - this applies universally to people with a lot of money or working for top tier companies. 25% of the population has extremely good health care. The rest, not so much.
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« Reply #6838 on: May 14, 2025, 11:45:23 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on May 14, 2025, 08:39:52 AM
Or go to trade school to learn a trade.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the guy who replaced my furnace does not have even remotely the same insurance level as I do. Not even in the same universe.

When I went to Palo Alto Medical Foundation for the hip procedure, the people at the desk just processed the paperwork when I gave them my insurance card. Nothing unusual for them.

I still use the eye doctor and dentist in Healdsburg, and go up there for my appointments. Everytime they run the insurance, they stop and call the insurance company because "something's wrong with the computer". Eventually they talk to someone at VSP or Delta and then just say "where do you work? I've never seen coverage like this before" - because they aren't in Silicon Valley where so many people have excellent coverage. For example, when I still needed contact lenses, they were free and I got a new pair of glasses free every year. I've never given the dentist a cent of my own money.

It goes on and on. If you turkeys finally succeed in driving me insane, I can go to a psychiatrist, free. Chiropractic? Free. Cataract surgery for both eyes? That cost me $1000 total for 2 eyes with the super premium multi focal lenses. Extended cancer screenings? Free. The colonoscopy was a pain in the ass but not the wallet.

That guy in the trades has a decent job but is still making financial calculations on his health care, and perhaps bypassing stuff that keeps him healthy so he can keep working. It's bullshit. We have the capability to give good health care to everyone - and we should. Dental visits are not Disneyland, or even soda paid for by SNAP benefits. Once people start to fall off the health bandwagon, they will drain society, not add to it. It's an investment in our people we should make.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6839 on: May 14, 2025, 12:35:06 PM »
I’m not sure what you’re even trying to say here? Your company is wildly profitable and can afford crème de la l crème coverage so everyone in the country should have that? The per capita cost of that coverage has to be insane, and would never, ever scale as government run universal healthcare funded by taxpayers. Sounds like the answer to healthcare is Nvidia paying for it for everyone else. I know guys who work in trades, their insurance is fine and they live very well. Those companies compete for workers just like companies in Silicon Valley.
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