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wtf is wrong with the right?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4470 on: January 15, 2024, 04:33:51 PM »
Reducing the asylum limit to just under 2 million a year and we're already giving out court dates of 7-8 years from now ?
The proposed limit would still be higher than numbers seen before the person responsible for this assumed office.

Sounds as if Moscow Mitch and Ladies Man Lyndsey are on board though.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4471 on: January 15, 2024, 04:58:23 PM »
https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1746710535104524681

So there is a bipartisan border bill in the Senate that the House is refusing to even consider until after the election...yep, it is all Biden's fault....

Hats off to Lankford for trying. 

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4472 on: January 16, 2024, 08:29:41 PM »
That was what the argument was about. The Feds denied that; Biden's lawyers said it did.
From today's hearing ......
"THE COURT: Now, we have two cases and two agreements and I
understand that the Diversion Agreement is not something that is typically before
the Court, but you all did send it to me so I do want to talk about that a little bit.

There are some provisions in those agreements that are not standard and are
different from what I normally see, so I think we need to walk through these
documents and get some understanding of what is being proposed so that I can
give due consideration to the determination that you all are asking me to make."

THE COURT: All right. Now, I want to talk a little bit about this
agreement not to prosecute. The agreement not to prosecute includes -- is in the
gun case, but it also includes crimes related to the tax case. So we looked through
a bunch of diversion agreements that we have access to and we couldn't find
anything that had anything similar to that.

So let me first ask, do you have any precedent for agreeing not to
prosecute crimes that have nothing to do with the case or the charges being
diverted?
MR. WISE: I'm not aware of any, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Do you have any authority that says that that's appropriate
and that the probation officer should agree to that as terms, or the chief of
probation should agree to that as terms of a Diversion Agreement?"
https://t.co/OZT0M1rWoM

Why did they send the diversion agreement to the judge if it is not something that appears before the Court ?
But because the judge did review it, questions were asked. If the judge had not reviewed it, is it safe to assume there may have been a no prosecution agreement on the tax charges if the Court accepted the tax charge agreement ?

The prosecution is requesting the move to dismiss by the defense be denied because the agreement was not approved by the probation office.
Does a plea deal generally go to the judge prior to the probation office ?

Why was the diversion agreement sent to the judge ?
« Last Edit: January 16, 2024, 08:49:49 PM by Mn »

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4473 on: January 16, 2024, 09:27:05 PM »
From today's hearing ......
"THE COURT: Now, we have two cases and two agreements and I
understand that the Diversion Agreement is not something that is typically before
the Court, but you all did send it to me so I do want to talk about that a little bit.

There are some provisions in those agreements that are not standard and are
different from what I normally see, so I think we need to walk through these
documents and get some understanding of what is being proposed so that I can
give due consideration to the determination that you all are asking me to make."

THE COURT: All right. Now, I want to talk a little bit about this
agreement not to prosecute. The agreement not to prosecute includes -- is in the
gun case, but it also includes crimes related to the tax case. So we looked through
a bunch of diversion agreements that we have access to and we couldn't find
anything that had anything similar to that.

So let me first ask, do you have any precedent for agreeing not to
prosecute crimes that have nothing to do with the case or the charges being
diverted?
MR. WISE: I'm not aware of any, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Do you have any authority that says that that's appropriate
and that the probation officer should agree to that as terms, or the chief of
probation should agree to that as terms of a Diversion Agreement?"
https://t.co/OZT0M1rWoM

Why did they send the diversion agreement to the judge if it is not something that appears before the Court ?
But because the judge did review it, questions were asked. If the judge had not reviewed it, is it safe to assume there may have been a no prosecution agreement on the tax charges if the Court accepted the tax charge agreement ?

The prosecution is requesting the move to dismiss by the defense be denied because the agreement was not approved by the probation office.
Does a plea deal generally go to the judge prior to the probation office ?

Why was the diversion agreement sent to the judge ?

This happened today or originally?

Don't know who gets to see what when in these cases.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4474 on: January 16, 2024, 09:39:26 PM »
This happened today or originally?

Don't know who gets to see what when in these cases.
This is taken from the prosecution's reply to Hunter's request to dismiss the charges.
The discussions between The Court and Mr. Wise were from the July hearing that fell apart.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4475 on: January 16, 2024, 09:44:18 PM »
This is taken from the prosecution's reply to Hunter's request to dismiss the charges.
The discussions between The Court and Mr. Wise were from the July hearing that fell apart.

Ok. I presumed the exchange occured back then.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4476 on: January 24, 2024, 05:35:17 PM »
Uppers and downers ok, but vaccines aren't. Ok!

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-white-house-pharmacy-prescription-drugs-1234953535/

White House pharmacists reportedly distributed uppers and downers like candy to Trump administration officials during his time in office, according to a new report from the Department of Defense Inspector General.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4477 on: January 25, 2024, 11:47:52 AM »
Uppers and downers ok, but vaccines aren't. Ok!

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-white-house-pharmacy-prescription-drugs-1234953535/

White House pharmacists reportedly distributed uppers and downers like candy to Trump administration officials during his time in office, according to a new report from the Department of Defense Inspector General.

pretty sure Trump was pro vaccine, lol
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4478 on: January 25, 2024, 11:53:39 AM »
pretty sure Trump was pro vaccine, lol

TDS is such a weird obsessive cult thing.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4479 on: January 25, 2024, 11:54:22 AM »
pretty sure Trump was pro vaccine, lol

He was, until he wasn't.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4480 on: January 25, 2024, 12:32:50 PM »
Uppers and downers ok, but vaccines aren't. Ok!

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-white-house-pharmacy-prescription-drugs-1234953535/

White House pharmacists reportedly distributed uppers and downers like candy to Trump administration officials during his time in office, according to a new report from the Department of Defense Inspector General.

To be fair, it takes A LOT of high-grade pharmaceuticals to get to a state of mind where you can pronounce Trump to be in excellent condition.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4481 on: January 25, 2024, 12:35:08 PM »
Uppers and downers ok, but vaccines aren't. Ok!

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-white-house-pharmacy-prescription-drugs-1234953535/

White House pharmacists reportedly distributed uppers and downers like candy to Trump administration officials during his time in office, according to a new report from the Department of Defense Inspector General.

the Biden admin really likes their uppers if you remember, lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_White_House_cocaine_incident
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4482 on: January 25, 2024, 01:25:41 PM »
I have a funny feeling that many of the White House pharmacy staff were on duty before the Trump administration came in. And are still there. 

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4483 on: January 25, 2024, 02:21:54 PM »
I have a funny feeling that many of the White House pharmacy staff were on duty before the Trump administration came in. And are still there.

Trump administration officials couldn't help themselves?
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« Reply #4484 on: January 25, 2024, 02:22:48 PM »
the Biden admin really likes their uppers if you remember, lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_White_House_cocaine_incident

I didn't know cocaine was an upper available from a pharmacy in the US.
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