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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6615 on: February 03, 2025, 03:27:46 PM »
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6616 on: February 03, 2025, 10:28:43 PM »
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6617 on: February 04, 2025, 12:32:06 PM »
These fuckheads are nuts.
We have a rando dude whose backstory is a mid level army guy in Afghanistan and a shitposter on FOX news ordering by fiat that the summer water reserves for farmers in the largest agricultural region in the US just be dumped out. Those reservoirs are full because of years of work in conservation and investments by farmers to reduce water usage on their crops, and they are just dumping it into Tulare Lake, the residual impact is flooding additional farmland and making it unfarmable this summer.

This is low key the weird shit that ends a nation.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6618 on: February 04, 2025, 12:42:08 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on February 04, 2025, 12:32:06 PM
These fuckheads are nuts.
We have a rando dude whose backstory is a mid level army guy in Afghanistan and a shitposter on FOX news ordering by fiat that the summer water reserves for farmers in the largest agricultural region in the US just be dumped out. Those reservoirs are full because of years of work in conservation and investments by farmers to reduce water usage on their crops, and they are just dumping it into Tulare Lake, the residual impact is flooding additional farmland and making it unfarmable this summer.

This is low key the weird shit that ends a nation.



Actually, it is going perfectly unfortunately. It is sadly going to be train wreck. But we will know where the fault lies.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6619 on: February 04, 2025, 02:24:55 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 04, 2025, 12:42:08 PM
Actually, it is going perfectly unfortunately. It is sadly going to be train wreck. But we will know where the fault lies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Andreas_Fault
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6620 on: February 07, 2025, 02:22:45 PM »
JD Vance on whether Marco Elez should be brought back into DOGE and be diving into Treasury Department servers...

"I don't think stupid social media activity should ruin a kid's life"

A kid.

He thinks "a kid" should be diving into Treasury Department servers.

Maybe the "kid" has some talent, should not have his life ruined, and have some ability to grow into a useful member of society. But if he's not there yet, if he's just "a stupid kid" - he should not be running amok in the Treasury Department.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6621 on: February 07, 2025, 04:15:53 PM »
also JD Vance - "He should be fired if he was a bad dude or terrible member of the team"

THEY fired him. He's framing it like Biden Pelosi and Soros had an emergency meeting and fired the guy and Vance is coming to the rescue to fix this wrong.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6622 on: February 07, 2025, 04:53:13 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on February 07, 2025, 02:22:45 PM
JD Vance on whether Marco Elez should be brought back into DOGE and be diving into Treasury Department servers...

"I don't think stupid social media activity should ruin a kid's life"

I say yes, bring him back.  Just one condition: he consents to DEI sensitivity training.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6623 on: February 07, 2025, 06:42:46 PM »
"That work relied on a carefully constructed web of trust that has now been destroyed, Dr. Mansoor said. Building that trust took years in South Africa, where the apartheid regime conducted medical experiments on Black people during the years of white rule. Those fears are echoed in a long history of experimentation by researchers and drug companies in developing countries and in marginalized populations in the United States."

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/06/health/usaid-clinical-trials-funding-trump.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwY2xjawITRJlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHXZ12LA21UQ4yWZNuMtJC8psj68PANceu3zLu42e6dzgeMImsDn86FQ18g_aem_WtPThM3y5sZ5bw8yE5nx7g
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6624 on: February 07, 2025, 07:48:43 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 07, 2025, 06:42:46 PM
"That work relied on a carefully constructed web of trust that has now been destroyed, Dr. Mansoor said. Building that trust took years in South Africa, where the apartheid regime conducted medical experiments on Black people during the years of white rule. Those fears are echoed in a long history of experimentation by researchers and drug companies in developing countries and in marginalized populations in the United States."

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People don't care about ineffective "soft power".
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6625 on: February 07, 2025, 07:51:03 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 07, 2025, 07:48:43 PM
People don't care about ineffective "soft power".

until battery prices triple
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6626 on: February 07, 2025, 07:52:32 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on February 07, 2025, 07:51:03 PM
until battery prices triple

I'm sure the South Africans will still sell to the highest bidder regardless.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6627 on: February 07, 2025, 08:54:36 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 07, 2025, 07:48:43 PM
People don't care about ineffective "soft power".

People should care about effective soft power. You don't win friends and influence people with bully tactics. You may dain a little in the short run with threats and intimidation. But you lose trust.

If you read the article; there is plenty the American people care about.. Trump may be a heartless, self serving, cruel bastard. Some of his followers might be assholes. Still, most Americans are kind and generous.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6628 on: February 07, 2025, 08:59:13 PM »
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The Times identified more than 30 frozen studies that had volunteers already in the care of researchers, including trials of:

malaria treatment in children under age 5 in Mozambique

treatment for cholera in Bangladesh

a screen-and-treat method for cervical cancer in Malawi

tuberculosis treatment for children and teenagers in Peru and South Africa

nutritional support for children in Ethiopia

early-childhood-development interventions in Cambodia

ways to support pregnant and breastfeeding women to reduce malnutrition in Jordan

an mRNA vaccine technology for H.I.V. in South Africa

It is difficult to know the total number of trials shut down, or how many people are affected, because the swift demolition of U.S.A.I.D. in recent days has erased the public record. In addition to the disabled website, the agency no longer has a communications department. And the stop-work order prohibits any implementing agency from speaking publicly about what has happened.

In England, about 100 people have been inoculated with an experimental malaria vaccine in two clinical trials. Now, they no longer have access to the clinical trial staff if that vaccine were to cause an adverse reaction in their bodies. The trial is an effort to find a next-generation vaccine better than the one now used in Africa; that shot protects children against about a third of malaria cases, but researchers hoped to find a vaccine that offered much more protection. Malaria remains a top global killer of children; 600,000 people died of the disease in 2023, the latest figure available.

But nobody cares
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6629 on: February 07, 2025, 09:14:35 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 07, 2025, 08:54:36 PM
People should care about effective soft power. You don't win friends and influence people with bully tactics. You may dain a little in the short run with threats and intimidation. But you lose trust.

If you read the article; there is plenty the American people care about.. Trump may be a heartless, self serving, cruel bastard. Some of his followers might be assholes. Still, most Americans are kind and generous.

They don't care about plying South Africans with HIV meds or African kids with clean water. Can you honestly say otherwise?
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