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wtf is wrong with the right?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2655 on: October 17, 2022, 04:38:45 PM »
Was just thinking about how inflation is not unique to the US at this point but I am sure the Dems will pay a price for it in November (among other reasons). What I have not looked up, as The PAMan = Big10Man, is how does US inflation rates compare to that for other countries?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2660 on: October 27, 2022, 10:36:31 AM »
I don't see how they can claim the NY Post was hacked. This stuff seems like the normal stuff they publish...

https://www.mediaite.com/news/new-york-post-website-and-twitter-hacked-flooded-with-grim-messages-including-call-for-aoc-assassination/
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2661 on: October 27, 2022, 11:49:35 AM »
Illinois Repubs have an ad with Joe Rogan giggling about IL purge law, cash free bail, automatic release for violent crimes...
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2662 on: October 27, 2022, 02:29:02 PM »
Illinois Repubs have an ad with Joe Rogan giggling about IL purge law, cash free bail, automatic release for violent crimes...

Cash free bail is one that people who want it really botched. The thought that a higher bail amount makes it more likely that you'll get an appearance or that the offender won't do anything while out on bail is just flat out false. Someone who is poor, won't make bail. Someone who is rich, might just skip the country and say "keep your 20k"

If someone is a flight risk or dangerous - they stay in jail. Otherwise, they can go pending trial. Cash bail is just way to dole out extra punishment to "those people" who can't afford bail. But punishing "those people" is popular with a lot of people.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2663 on: October 27, 2022, 04:04:48 PM »
Cash free bail is one that people who want it really botched. The thought that a higher bail amount makes it more likely that you'll get an appearance or that the offender won't do anything while out on bail is just flat out false. Someone who is poor, won't make bail. Someone who is rich, might just skip the country and say "keep your 20k"

If someone is a flight risk or dangerous - they stay in jail. Otherwise, they can go pending trial. Cash bail is just way to dole out extra punishment to "those people" who can't afford bail. But punishing "those people" is popular with a lot of people.

This is all true. However, it ignores a) that boneheaded State's Attorneys like Kim Foxx will not push for dangerous people to be held, b) other State's Attorneys will now have to do some work now to keep people behind bars, and c) a few people (want to?) read the law as requiring people currently behind bars to be set free and to not allowing others to be held at all based on their charges.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2664 on: October 27, 2022, 04:13:27 PM »
This is all true. However, it ignores a) that boneheaded State's Attorneys like Kim Foxx will not push for dangerous people to be held, b) other State's Attorneys will now have to do some work now to keep people behind bars, and c) a few people (want to?) read the law as requiring people currently behind bars to be set free and to not allowing others to be held at all based on their charges.

A bad state's attorney should not be mitigated by bad policy.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2665 on: October 27, 2022, 04:59:30 PM »
Besides being used to hold poor defendants in jail pending trial; the corrupt cash bail system is also used to collect fines, court fees, and debts. Some of those whining might have a vested interest.

The big lies are that eliminating cash bail = automatic release and "that a higher bail amount makes it more likely that you'll get an appearance or that the offender won't do anything while out on bail"
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2666 on: October 28, 2022, 11:58:44 AM »


The dude will probably get no cash bail

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2667 on: October 28, 2022, 01:00:57 PM »
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2668 on: October 31, 2022, 01:15:58 PM »


The dude will probably get no cash bail
She's a pain in the ass but this endangering of government officials is total BS. We live in such an effed up world.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2669 on: November 03, 2022, 05:18:44 PM »
This is the Trumpiest of self-owns ever.

Try to prove that there is fraud in the system by trying to do your own fraud, get caught, fired and face criminal charges.