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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1440 on: December 01, 2022, 03:07:06 PM »
We can also see good play from individuals and still lose. That would be ideal.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1441 on: December 01, 2022, 03:07:28 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 01, 2022, 03:05:03 PM
See post after this one. I’m not worried about whether Justin Jones or Nicholas Morrow are part of the future. They aren’t.

But there are guys who HAVE to be part of the future because you can't turn over your roster that quickly.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1442 on: December 01, 2022, 03:07:57 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 01, 2022, 03:06:23 PM
The point is that there are guys currently playing who are going to be around the next 2 years. If they suck, which they look to suck, how is tanking going to turn this team around?

Hopefully the majority of them still around will be the backup to the backup.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1443 on: December 01, 2022, 03:08:12 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 01, 2022, 03:07:06 PM
We can also see good plays from individuals and still lose. That would be ideal.

Of course. But is that what we are seeing? The D has been brutal.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1444 on: December 01, 2022, 03:08:45 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 01, 2022, 03:07:57 PM
Hopefully the majority of them still around will be the backup to the backup.

Now THAT is risky.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1445 on: December 01, 2022, 03:09:45 PM »
If you can get that #2 pick and trade it to a QB hungry franchise, it would bring in a great haul. Look at what San Fran did to the Bears, and what Miami accomplished trading down. Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle aren’t Dolphins if they didn’t do what they did in the draft.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1446 on: December 01, 2022, 03:10:32 PM »
The winning comes when you get better players. Period.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1447 on: December 01, 2022, 03:17:12 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 01, 2022, 03:08:12 PM
Of course. But is that what we are seeing? The D has been brutal.

I don’t expect 26-30 year old players who were never that good to start being good now.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1448 on: December 01, 2022, 03:20:00 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 01, 2022, 02:53:36 PM
? Justin Fields was a full go for the first time today in practice they just reported…

Apparently that news broke about the time I posted the original post. Certainly throws a wrench into things. I still think there’s a decent chance Fields sits. Would be epically dumb to play him. Would be a bad day for Poles/Eberflus IMO. No one questions Fields’ toughness. This is also an injury that CAN get worse.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1449 on: December 01, 2022, 03:33:50 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 01, 2022, 03:09:45 PM
If you can get that #2 pick and trade it to a QB hungry franchise, it would bring in a great haul. Look at what San Fran did to the Bears, and what Miami accomplished trading down. Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle aren’t Dolphins if they didn’t do what they did in the draft.

Did those teams need as much on both sides of the ball as the Bear does?
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1450 on: December 01, 2022, 03:49:12 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 01, 2022, 03:33:50 PM
Did those teams need as much on both sides of the ball as the Bear does?

You just made the case for trading the #2 pick for more picks.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1451 on: December 01, 2022, 04:25:58 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 01, 2022, 03:49:12 PM
You just made the case for trading the #2 pick for more picks.

We know they need a lot of help. The question is whether they will have the pieces in place by the time the JFC contract ends.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1452 on: December 01, 2022, 04:44:32 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 01, 2022, 04:25:58 PM
We know they need a lot of help. The question is whether they will have the pieces in place by the time the JFC contract ends.

Better chance that happens if you can parlay that 2nd pick into multiple high picks.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1453 on: December 01, 2022, 05:46:29 PM »
Didn't want Jalen Carter anyway.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1454 on: December 01, 2022, 07:35:59 PM »
Quote from: Mn on December 01, 2022, 05:46:29 PM
Didn't want Jalen Carter anyway.

Things changed when the 2nd pick became realistic. At that time Bears were about 6th. Jalen Carter would be a nice consolation prize if we fall to 3rd or worse.
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