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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #9300 on: April 22, 2026, 12:56:28 PM »
Quote from: Custard on April 22, 2026, 11:09:54 AM
Why? Because exporters and importers ate a lot of it, and didn’t pass it along.

Importers? US Companies? You told us CHINA was gonna pay it.

Do the exporters get refunds?
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #9301 on: April 22, 2026, 01:16:58 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 22, 2026, 11:27:45 AM
The left was never screaming bloody murder. They were calmly pointing things out.

Tariffs Increased Retail Prices of Imports by 7 Percentage Points Prior to Supreme Court Ruling
March 3, 2026 2026
5 min read
By: Alex Durante
https://taxfoundation.org/blog/trump-tariffs-raise-prices-consumers/

Calmly pointing things out LOL
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #9302 on: April 22, 2026, 01:18:46 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on April 22, 2026, 11:19:46 AM
Argue with the U.S. Senate.

https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/7cc03e65-d40a-465f-9e88-09dd53d3502f/jec-fact-sheet-on-cost-of-tariffs-for-families-update.pdf

That’s almost certainly the highest estimate I’ve seen and effectively says every single penny of tariffs was paid for by American consumers which simply isn’t the case. Since when did we trust the Senate, anyways?
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #9303 on: April 22, 2026, 01:23:38 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on April 22, 2026, 11:31:37 AM
Hey but Custard didn’t notice, so doesn’t count.

I saved more than $1700 on cheaper gas and eggs
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #9304 on: April 22, 2026, 01:24:25 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on April 22, 2026, 12:56:28 PM
Importers? US Companies? You told us CHINA was gonna pay it.

Do the exporters get refunds?

I didn’t say that, but since you brought it up, Chinese exporters did absorb a fair amount of the cost of tariffs to try to keep market share. 10-25% or so.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #9305 on: April 22, 2026, 01:27:38 PM »
Quote from: Custard on April 22, 2026, 01:18:46 PM
That’s almost certainly the highest estimate I’ve seen and effectively says every single penny of tariffs was paid for by American consumers which simply isn’t the case. Since when did we trust the Senate, anyways?

The report appears to be an estimate issued by the minority party.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #9306 on: April 22, 2026, 01:37:31 PM »
Quote from: Somewhere in Mn on April 22, 2026, 01:27:38 PM
The report appears to be an estimate issued by the minority party.

Ad Hominem. Rebut the argument, not the argumenter.
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« Reply #9307 on: April 22, 2026, 01:52:42 PM »
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #9308 on: April 22, 2026, 02:57:18 PM »
And a lot of the small companies closed up.  Collateral damage for sure.  Regardless, it was all illegal and remind me where the buck stops?
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #9309 on: April 22, 2026, 03:00:16 PM »
Quote from: Custard on April 22, 2026, 01:52:42 PM
Didn’t give them enough time. A lot of companies I do business with were starting to reshore production and supply lines.

Baloney. 
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #9310 on: April 22, 2026, 03:23:01 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on April 22, 2026, 03:00:16 PM
Baloney.

Yes I am sure the emails they were sending me about adjusting supply chains and moving manufacturing were lies. I’d go back and screen shot them but I’m not even going to waste my time because your head is so buried in the sand it wouldn’t matter anyways.

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #9311 on: April 22, 2026, 03:34:35 PM »
Quote from: ridingthegrange on April 22, 2026, 02:57:18 PM
And a lot of the small companies closed up.  Collateral damage for sure.  Regardless, it was all illegal and remind me where the buck stops?

Give those companies some time.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #9312 on: April 22, 2026, 05:23:00 PM »
Quote from: ridingthegrange on April 22, 2026, 02:57:18 PM
And a lot of the small companies closed up.  Collateral damage for sure.  Regardless, it was all illegal and remind me where the buck stops?

Woke AI doesn’t seem to agree.

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What you’re seeing isn’t a clean “tariffs caused a surge in closures.”

It’s more like:

* 2019–2020: already high (structural retail decline + COVID shock)
* 2021–2023: artificially low (stimulus + strong demand)
* 2024–2025: normalization + delayed pain hitting all at once

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If you want, I can break this down outside of retail (manufacturing, small business formation rates, etc.), which tells a slightly different—and interesting—story.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #9313 on: April 22, 2026, 05:50:27 PM »
Quote from: Custard on April 22, 2026, 01:24:25 PM
I didn’t say that, but since you brought it up, Chinese exporters did absorb a fair amount of the cost of tariffs to try to keep market share. 10-25% or so.

so if those tariffs were illegal, do we have to repay them?
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #9314 on: April 23, 2026, 10:44:29 AM »
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