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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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Any of you cultists care to address this blatant lie by Dear Leader?



Maybe DJT was confused was thinking about the last time this agent got rammed by a car and ended up in the hospital.
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Yes, but you claimed free shot "shooting likely didn’t cost the Illini anything".... That's not very definitive. "Likely" is a hedge word. Mn has proven your fence straddling in 2023 and your new definitive take in 2026 are and were erroneous.

I am sure we will discuss in 2029 how Illini FS Shooting in 2025-2026 did not likely or definitely cost them games. As noted, Mn can reference the Alabama game in 2029.

If you think Mn’s claim is a good one, we’re done here. The play by play chart literally shows his claims to be shaky at best.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Speaking of grifters, the Krassensteins make a living retweeting Trump rage bait. Only in America can wailing one’s head off about a sitting president be a cottage industry turned big business.
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If you think Mn’s claim is a good one, we’re done here. The play by play chart literally shows his claims to be shaky at best.

You think that or think that is likely?
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Speaking of grifters, the Krassensteins make a living retweeting Trump rage bait. Only in America can wailing one’s head off about a sitting president be a cottage industry turned big business.

This is why we need The Twotter.
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Speaking of grifters, the Krassensteins make a living retweeting Trump rage bait. Only in America can wailing one’s head off about a sitting president be a cottage industry turned big business.

What did he say that is incorrect?
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Any of you cultists care to address this blatant lie by Dear Leader?


Both of the officers were taken to the hospital.

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Both of the officers were taken to the hospital.

This is what is known as "trying to create a narrative". What happened, did the officer get a hangnail trying to open the car door?

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What did he say that is incorrect?
The immunity comes by law. Not because Vance says it.

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No, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents do not have absolute immunity from prosecution. Legal experts and long-standing case law confirm that federal officials can be held accountable for unlawful actions, though they are provided significant legal protections for actions taken in the scope of their official duties.

Key Points on ICE Immunity

*Qualified Immunity: Instead of absolute immunity, federal law enforcement officers are generally covered by "qualified immunity" in civil lawsuits. This protection shields them from liability unless their conduct violates clearly established statutory or constitutional rights, which is a high bar for plaintiffs to overcome.

*State vs. Federal Charges: The U.S. Constitution's Supremacy Clause limits when states can prosecute federal agents for breaking state law while performing their duties. However, this is not a blanket shield. If a federal agent acts outside the reasonable confines of their official duties or engages in egregious conduct that clearly falls outside the law, they may face state criminal charges.

*Federal Prosecution: The U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) can and does prosecute federal officers who break federal law. Investigations into alleged misconduct are typically handled internally, by the Office of the Inspector General, or the DOJ itself.

*Context of Recent Discussions: The question of "absolute immunity" has been the subject of recent public debate, with some officials claiming federal agents are entirely protected. However, constitutional law experts widely agree this overstates the law, and courts ultimately determine whether immunity applies on a case-by-case basis.

In essence, while it can be difficult to prosecute federal agents for actions taken during their work, the legal system provides avenues for accountability if they act illegally.
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Because FOX News told me so…

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No, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents do not have absolute immunity from prosecution. Legal experts and long-standing case law confirm that federal officials can be held accountable for unlawful actions, though they are provided significant legal protections for actions taken in the scope of their official duties.

Key Points on ICE Immunity

*Qualified Immunity: Instead of absolute immunity, federal law enforcement officers are generally covered by "qualified immunity" in civil lawsuits. This protection shields them from liability unless their conduct violates clearly established statutory or constitutional rights, which is a high bar for plaintiffs to overcome.

*State vs. Federal Charges: The U.S. Constitution's Supremacy Clause limits when states can prosecute federal agents for breaking state law while performing their duties. However, this is not a blanket shield. If a federal agent acts outside the reasonable confines of their official duties or engages in egregious conduct that clearly falls outside the law, they may face state criminal charges.

*Federal Prosecution: The U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) can and does prosecute federal officers who break federal law. Investigations into alleged misconduct are typically handled internally, by the Office of the Inspector General, or the DOJ itself.

*Context of Recent Discussions: The question of "absolute immunity" has been the subject of recent public debate, with some officials claiming federal agents are entirely protected. However, constitutional law experts widely agree this overstates the law, and courts ultimately determine whether immunity applies on a case-by-case basis.

In essence, while it can be difficult to prosecute federal agents for actions taken during their work, the legal system provides avenues for accountability if they act illegally.
And Vance is offering his opinion that the guy did nothing illegal so he has immunity.
I agree and the Krassensteins aren't worth your time.

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And Vance is offering his opinion that the guy did nothing illegal so he has immunity.
I agree and the Krassensteins aren't worth your time.

Who are the Krassensteins?

If he did nothing illegal, he doesn't need immunity from criminal prosecution.

Even if that were true; there might still the possibility of civil liability for wrongful death. 
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