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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #7290 on: December 22, 2025, 08:05:49 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 21, 2025, 09:34:58 AM
Jim Beam apparently didn't get the memo that the economy is going great....

https://www.kentucky.com/news/business/article313847580.html

Shutting down a distillery for 2026 due to foreign boycotts of US goods!

The bourbon bubble burst a while back, guess they should have been paying attention. I’d say Trump might bail them out like he did the farmers, but he’s not a drinking man.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #7291 on: December 22, 2025, 08:12:39 AM »
Quote from: Service Unavailable on December 21, 2025, 03:07:03 PM
Educate me.

You’re not going to believe this, but the center had a name BEFORE they named it for Kennedy! Names change. 🤷🏻‍♂️

It’s not Hal9000, but AI may be accurate:

The building was in poor physical and financial condition, and his administration secured $257 million in congressional funding for major renovations, repairs, maintenance, and security upgrades. This included restoring the exterior marble, renovating interior seating and stages, and addressing a backlog of issues.

Trump and his team also raised private funds (e.g., through events like a “Les Misérables” performance) and reported record fundraising, such as $23 million for the 2025 Kennedy Center Honors. Supporters credit these efforts with revitalizing the center, leading to its board voting in December 2025 to rename it the “Trump-Kennedy Center” in recognition of his contributions—though the move drew criticism from Democrats, the Kennedy family, and others over legal concerns (as federal law designates it as a memorial to JFK).
Note: This is distinct from a smaller $25 million COVID-19 relief allocation to the Kennedy Center in 2020, which Trump defended but was not tied to renovations.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #7292 on: December 22, 2025, 08:27:20 AM »
The name change was enacted following a vote by the center’s board of trustees, which had been significantly reshaped by President Donald Trump.

Reasons for the Name Change

Acknowledgment of Support: The board stated the new name recognizes President Trump’s efforts to "save" the institution from financial and physical decline.

Physical and Financial Renovations: Trump and his supporters claim the administration secured critical funding—approximately $257 million—to address major building repairs and financial instability.

Cultural Shift: The change is part of a broader effort by the administration to move away from what it described as "woke" programming and refocus the center's mission.

Legal and Social Controversy

The renaming has been met with significant opposition and legal questions:

Congressional Authority: Legal experts and Democratic lawmakers argue the name change is unlawful because the center was established by a 1964 act of Congress as a memorial to JFK. They maintain that only Congress has the legal authority to rename it.

Kennedy Family Reaction: Relatives of John F. Kennedy, including Maria Shriver and Jack Schlossberg, have publicly denounced the move as an insult to the late president's legacy.

Board Vote Dispute: While the administration described the board vote as unanimous, at least one board member claimed they were muted during the call and unable to voice their opposition.

Signage bearing the new name was installed on the building's facade on December 19, 2025.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #7293 on: December 22, 2025, 08:30:00 AM »
And on CNN from someone who sat in a VIP box during the previous administration

https://x.com/i/status/2002492674323198023
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #7294 on: December 22, 2025, 09:08:47 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on December 22, 2025, 08:30:00 AM
And on CNN from someone who sat in a VIP box during the previous administration

https://x.com/i/status/2002492674323198023

“The reality is that they may have overcorrected, but right now they’re overcorrecting in another way,” she said. “The fact that Trump is putting his name on every single thing and you want to normalize it like it’s normal tells me you’re the problem and not the solution.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/youre-the-problem-black-cnn-guest-torches-pro-trump-pundit-over-kennedy-center-take_n_6946ff59e4b00a59b4a6e041

George Floyd became a symbol for official misconduct and excessive force directed against black men.

 Donald Trump is a wealthy powerful man who was born on third base, thinks he hit a triple, and likes to name things after himself.

Comparing them is weird.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #7295 on: December 22, 2025, 09:52:07 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 22, 2025, 09:08:47 AM
George Floyd became a symbol for official misconduct and excessive force directed against black men.

 Donald Trump is a wealthy powerful man who was born on third base, thinks he hit a triple, and likes to name things after himself.

Comparing them is weird.
Correct.
One was a phony bill passing drug addict. The other is twice elected POTUS.

But the Cari Champion whataboutism has nothing to do with the alleged state of disrepair and the money raised to refurbish the Trump-Kennedy Center
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #7296 on: December 22, 2025, 10:02:35 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on December 22, 2025, 09:52:07 AM
Correct.
One was a phony bill passing drug addict. The other is twice elected POTUS.

Matthew 25:40
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #7297 on: December 22, 2025, 10:03:17 AM »
Quote from: Custard on December 22, 2025, 08:12:39 AM
You’re not going to believe this, but the center had a name BEFORE they named it for Kennedy! Names change. 🤷🏻‍♂️

It’s not Hal9000, but AI may be accurate:

The building was in poor physical and financial condition, and his administration secured $257 million in congressional funding for major renovations, repairs, maintenance, and security upgrades. This included restoring the exterior marble, renovating interior seating and stages, and addressing a backlog of issues.

Trump and his team also raised private funds (e.g., through events like a “Les Misérables” performance) and reported record fundraising, such as $23 million for the 2025 Kennedy Center Honors. Supporters credit these efforts with revitalizing the center, leading to its board voting in December 2025 to rename it the “Trump-Kennedy Center” in recognition of his contributions—though the move drew criticism from Democrats, the Kennedy family, and others over legal concerns (as federal law designates it as a memorial to JFK).
Note: This is distinct from a smaller $25 million COVID-19 relief allocation to the Kennedy Center in 2020, which Trump defended but was not tied to renovations.

Did Kennedy name it after himself?
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #7298 on: December 22, 2025, 10:06:42 AM »
Quote from: Custard on December 22, 2025, 08:12:39 AM


Trump and his team also raised private funds (e.g., through events like a “Les Misérables” performance) and reported record fundraising, such as $23 million for the 2025 Kennedy Center Honors. Supporters credit these efforts with revitalizing the center, leading to its board voting in December 2025 to rename it the “Trump-Kennedy Center” in recognition of his contributions—

So Trump demands credit for doing something virtually any other President would do?
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #7299 on: December 22, 2025, 10:07:15 AM »
Mn, Custard, and Judy voted for this.

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #7300 on: December 22, 2025, 10:09:44 AM »
I’ll bet anyone here 100k Republicans were the ones who cut funding for the Kennedy Arts Center.
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« Reply #7301 on: December 22, 2025, 10:14:08 AM »
Didn’t Custard just tell us these were private contributions?

Edit: ok, partial contributions. Apparently. Probably went into a slush fund.


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« Reply #7302 on: December 22, 2025, 10:15:33 AM »
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In 2025, President Donald Trump repeatedly claimed that the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts is in "tremendous disrepair" following his takeover of the institution’s leadership.

The following details outline the claims regarding the facility's condition and the subsequent response from former leadership:

Trump's Allegations of Disrepair

During a tour and board meeting in March 2025, Trump criticized the physical state and management of the center:

Physical Deterioration: He cited painted exterior columns that he argued should be covered in marble or granite.

Wasted Funding: He specifically criticized a $250 million expansion (the REACH, opened in 2019), calling the new underground rooms "nonsense" and "crazy rooms" that would likely go unused.

Management Blame: Trump attributed the alleged disrepair to "bad management" by previous leadership, promising to work with Congress to "save the building" with a significant budget increase.

Response from Former Leadership

Former Kennedy Center President Deborah Rutter, who was ousted during the 2025 takeover, refuted these claims:

Maintenance Backlog: Rutter acknowledged a backlog of maintenance but noted it was prioritized based on limited federal funding—a common issue for federal buildings in D.C..

Audit Transparency: She defended the center’s financial management, stating that all reports were professionally audited and transparently available during her 10-year tenure.

Budgeting: Rutter argued that the $250 million expansion was privately funded and that the center's operating budgets had been approved by a board that included Trump's own previous appointees.

Current Status (December 2025)

Renaming: In late 2025, the board voted to rename the facility the Trump-Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts.

Financial & Operational Struggles: Reports indicate the center has faced plummeting ticket sales and high vacancy rates since the takeover, with an estimated 43% of seats remaining empty during some performances.

Leadership: The center is currently led by President Richard Grenell and Board Chair Donald Trump.
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« Reply #7303 on: December 22, 2025, 10:22:46 AM »
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« Reply #7304 on: December 22, 2025, 10:54:10 AM »
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