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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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Who said Garcia is a bad guy ? Other than his wife ?

Let's highlight all violent crimes committed by men with Hispanic surnames.





"I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great great wall on our southern border and I’ll have Mexico pay for that wall." -- Donald Trump

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Let's highlight all violent crimes committed by men with Hispanic surnames.


1) Brown skin
2) Name that ends in "ez" or "ia"
3) Listening to La Bamba

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'The Supreme Court on April 8 paused Boasberg's temporary order blocking Alien Enemies Act deportations, but said anyone else targeted for deportation under the law must have the chance to challenge their removal in court." -- published sources
"I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great great wall on our southern border and I’ll have Mexico pay for that wall." -- Donald Trump


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Winning

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/economy/fed-chair-powell-sounds-alarm-on-tariffs-sending-stocks-lower/ar-AA1D3nX5?ocid=BingNewsSerp

If we are destined to relive the economy of the 1970s, can we at least have popular music up to the standards of that decade? 

Then a New New Wave.

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'The Supreme Court on April 8 paused Boasberg's temporary order blocking Alien Enemies Act deportations, but said anyone else targeted for deportation under the law must have the chance to challenge their removal in court." -- published sources

In retrospect I’m a little ashamed of myself for even arguing with you over immigration stuff. You’re an avowed open borders guy who assumes that the positives outweigh the negatives. You try and mask that by arguing the nuances of fringe immigration law, but at the end of the day this guy entered our country illegally. I’m sorry you don’t like the laws, but most of this country doesn’t agree with you.
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In retrospect I’m a little ashamed of myself for even arguing with you over immigration stuff. You’re an avowed open borders guy who assumes that the positives outweigh the negatives. You try and mask that by arguing the nuances of fringe immigration law, but at the end of the day this guy entered our country illegally. I’m sorry you don’t like the laws, but most of this country doesn’t agree with you.

The 9 supreme court justices - even Thomas and Alito, agreed with the fact the guy should not have been deported.

Most of the country - sadly not 95% plus - think "If the Supreme Court says this is the law, you gotta follow the law"

In this case - the person not liking the law, is trump. The law is whatever the Supreme Court says it is. At least that used to be the case.

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"fringe immigration law" is a good one.
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'The Supreme Court on April 8 paused Boasberg's temporary order blocking Alien Enemies Act deportations, but said anyone else targeted for deportation under the law must have the chance to challenge their removal in court." -- published sources
I'll start here and meander ....

I assume you're referring to Trump v J.G.G.

The opinion, entered April 7, was that the detained people with deportation orders as a result of the AEA proclamation are entitled to review.
"More specifically, in this context, AEA detainees must receive notice after the date of this order that they are subject to removal under the Act."
KAG was deported 3 weeks earlier.

The opinion references Venezuelans who are members of an FTO, Tren de Aragua.
KAG is a citizen of El Salvador, not Venezuela, and presumed by DHS, 2 Immigration Judges, and Prince George's County of Md police to be a member of MS 13, not TdA.
It's probable that the President of El Salvador assumes he is a member of MS 13.

The opinion states that seeking of habeas must be done at the site of confinement. KAG was detained in La and Tx. Habeas wasn't sought in La or Tx and the court case is in D.C.
Jurisdiction in D.C. may be an issue and lack of jurisdiction was the cause of the habeas issue to be previously dropped with respect to those in confinement.

KAG already had removal orders from 2 separate Immigration Judges, established years prior to Trump's AEA proclamation. Other than his entering the country illegally and failing to be granted asylum there is no requirement that he be charged with a crime, or convicted.
He had removal orders and the AEA proclamation occured years after his removal orders were approved.

Regarding an FBI lawyer who altered a document presented to the FISA Court to spy on a U.S. citizen, there is no defense offered to the Court in a FISA warrant request. The Court relies on governmental candor, not lack of candor.
"Clinesmith pleaded guilty to one count of making a false statement within both the jurisdiction of the executive branch and judicial branch of the U.S. government, an offense that carries a maximum term of imprisonment of five years and a fine of up to $250,000.  Judge Boasberg scheduled sentencing for December 10, 2020.

The sentence from Judge Boasberg ? He gave probation to an FBI lawyer who altered a document to the FISA Court to spy on a U.S. citizen that violated "both the jurisdiction of the executive branch and judicial branch of the U.S. government,"
A FISA warrant on Carter Page allowed for the 2 step rule to spy on a Presidential candidate and, after the election, POTUS.

Judge Boasberg was a member of that FISA Court.




Now, back to those "published sources."


« Last Edit: April 17, 2025, 10:26:16 AM by No one in Mn »
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The 9 supreme court justices - even Thomas and Alito, agreed with the fact the guy should not have been deported.

Most of the country - sadly not 95% plus - think "If the Supreme Court says this is the law, you gotta follow the law"

In this case - the person not liking the law, is trump. The law is whatever the Supreme Court says it is. At least that used to be the case.

I’m not sure anything in this post is accurate.
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I’m not sure anything in this post is accurate.

I see you forgot your meds again

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I'll start here and meander ....

I assume you're referring to Trump v J.G.G.

The opinion, entered April 7, was that the detained people with deportation orders as a result of the AEA proclamation are entitled to review.
"More specifically, in this context, AEA detainees must receive notice after the date of this order that they are subject to removal under the Act."
KAG was deported 3 weeks earlier.

The opinion references Venezuelans who are members of an FTO, Tren de Aragua.
KAG is a citizen of El Salvador, not Venezuela, and presumed by DHS, 2 Immigration Judges, and Prince George's County of Md police to be a member of MS 13, not TdA.
It's probable that the President of El Salvador assumes he is a member of MS 13.

The opinion states that seeking of habeas must be done at the site of confinement. KAG was detained in La and Tx. Habeas wasn't sought in La or Tx and the court case is in D.C.
Jurisdiction in D.C. may be an issue and lack of jurisdiction was the cause of the habeas issue to be previously dropped with respect to those in confinement.

KAG already had removal orders from 2 separate Immigration Judges, established years prior to Trump's AEA proclamation. Other than his entering the country illegally and failing to be granted asylum there is no requirement that he be charged with a crime, or convicted.
He had removal orders and the AEA proclamation occured years after his removal orders were approved.

Regarding an FBI lawyer who altered a document presented to the FISA Court to spy on a U.S. citizen, there is no defense offered to the Court in a FISA warrant request. The Court relies on governmental candor, not lack of candor.
"Clinesmith pleaded guilty to one count of making a false statement within both the jurisdiction of the executive branch and judicial branch of the U.S. government, an offense that carries a maximum term of imprisonment of five years and a fine of up to $250,000.  Judge Boasberg scheduled sentencing for December 10, 2020.

The sentence from Judge Boasberg ? He gave probation to an FBI lawyer who altered a document to the FISA Court to spy on a U.S. citizen that violated "both the jurisdiction of the executive branch and judicial branch of the U.S. government,"
A FISA warrant on Carter Page allowed for the 2 step rule to spy on a Presidential candidate and, after the election, POTUS.

Judge Boasberg was a member of that FISA Court.




Now, back to those "published sources."

And the administration was free to appeal the Do Not Send to El Salvador order that had previously been entered and someone could sign off on the evidence they have that he is a gang member, in accordance with Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 11. That is how this worked, at least until now, and is supposed to work.

When this all eventually boomerangs on the Trumpers, you will be one of the first ones squealing the loudest.

No problem deporting this asshole, but do it right. Less chance for fuck ups like this one. That's the whole point.
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Trump - "Groceries (prices) (even Eggs) are down"

How can you even measure when there aren't any eggs?

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And the administration was free to appeal the Do Not Send to El Salvador order that had previously been entered and someone could sign off on the evidence they have that he is a gang member, in accordance with Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 11. That is how this worked, at least until now, and is supposed to work.

When this all eventually boomerangs on the Trumpers, you will be one of the first ones squealing the loudest.

No problem deporting this asshole, but do it right. Less chance for fuck ups like this one. That's the whole point.
Assuming the judge had the authority to order the plane to be turned around, has the authority to become involved in foreign affairs and that the WOR applies to a member of an FTO with removal orders or has jurisdiction.

I'll try not to squeal but SCOTUS has already brought up foreign affairs and may very well tell Boasberg to go pound sand when the case gets back to SCOTUS.
Meanwhile, it appears as tho Boasberg is looking for a contempt charge over a TRO that may not have been within his authority.

And I don't think they have even gotten to arguing the WOR issue.
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Assuming the judge had the authority to order the plane to be turned around, has the authority to become involved in foreign affairs and that the WOR applies to a member of an FTO with removal orders or has jurisdiction.

I'll try not to squeal but SCOTUS has already brought up foreign affairs and may very well tell Boasberg to go pound sand when the case gets back to SCOTUS.
Meanwhile, it appears as tho Boasberg is looking for a contempt charge over a TRO that may not have been within his authority.

And I don't think they have even gotten to arguing the WOR issue.

And yet, they ruled how they ruled despite the fact they always love to bounce cases on jurisdiction or any technicality they can find. Again, they were free to appeal his order, even on an emergency basis, to the appellate court and argue the W appointed judge lacked jurisdiction to enter the TRO.
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