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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4455 on: April 15, 2025, 01:09:28 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on April 15, 2025, 11:50:55 AM
I'm not sure it says that.
That is exactly what it says.

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But the American Immigration Council article does say "the “removal” to a person’s home country is “withheld.” However, the government is still allowed to deport that person to a different country if the other country agrees to accept them."
Did you just make that up?

"As in the case of asylum, a person who is granted withholding of removal is protected from being returned to his or her home country and receives the right to remain in the United States and work legally.".


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And then there's customary international law ....
"By contrast, customary international law holds that a country has a duty to accept the return of its nationals."


How is that even remotely relevant?
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4456 on: April 15, 2025, 01:10:22 PM »
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4457 on: April 15, 2025, 01:12:10 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 15, 2025, 12:53:49 PM
"As in the case of asylum, a person who is granted withholding of removal is protected from being returned to his or her home country and receives the right to remain in the United States and work legally."

You can't be serious.
Read the rest of the paragraph.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4458 on: April 15, 2025, 01:26:42 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on April 15, 2025, 01:12:10 PM
Read the rest of the paragraph.

Conceded. However, I still suspect there is a process.

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4459 on: April 15, 2025, 01:30:45 PM »
LOL. Nichi should just go to law school with all the work he is putting in here
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4460 on: April 15, 2025, 01:43:00 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 15, 2025, 01:26:42 PM
Conceded. However, I still suspect there is a process.


And the process is being argued in court. SCOTUS essentially told the judge that her powers end with a request of a facilitation of release, she can not order an "effectuation" of release and that she has no jurisdiction over foreign affairs.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4461 on: April 15, 2025, 02:02:10 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on April 15, 2025, 01:43:00 PM
And the process is being argued in court. SCOTUS essentially told the judge that her powers end with a request of a facilitation of release, she can not order an "effectuation" of release and that she has no jurisdiction over foreign affairs.

I disagree but it is moot. Garcia was denied due process. I don't think anyone disagrees with that. The question is what can be done now?  is it oops, too fucken late?

The other question is what is due process if a person is legally present with a status of withholding of removal? In the event ICE finds a third country willing to accept them, can they just act unilaterally? Or is a new hearing and a new order of removal required?
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4462 on: April 15, 2025, 02:33:59 PM »
His case went to Immigration Court 3 times. He was initially given a removal order at which time he asked for bond and that is when his MS13 connections arose. He then appealed and the appeal was denied by the Immigration Appellate Court.
Several months later he requested asylum and withholding of removal to El Salvador.
The request for withholding of removal to El Salvador was granted.
His request for asylum was denied.
He'd been ordered removed and his request of several months later for asylum was denied.
His case went to SCOTUS who told the judge to act like a judge and stay out of foreign affairs.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4463 on: April 15, 2025, 03:18:03 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on April 15, 2025, 02:33:59 PM
His case went to Immigration Court 3 times. He was initially given a removal order at which time he asked for bond and that is when his MS13 connections arose. He then appealed and the appeal was denied by the Immigration Appellate Court.
Several months later he requested asylum and withholding of removal to El Salvador.
The request for withholding of removal to El Salvador was granted.
His request for asylum was denied.
He'd been ordered removed and his request of several months later for asylum was denied.
His case went to SCOTUS who told the judge to act like a judge and stay out of foreign affairs.

dude just get it over with and say "I don't like Mexicans"
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4464 on: April 16, 2025, 08:41:10 AM »
The authorities are at it again saying 1 of the 2 Washington men who are alleged to have tried to murder the poor lady and feed her to the bears has probable Tren de Aragua gang ties.
They could have left out the probable gang affiliation, but no, they decided to bring that up. It just makes all Tren de Aragua members look bad.

"According to charging documents, Sanabria and Arnaez-Gutierrez kidnapped the woman from an apartment complex in Burien on January 21 around 10 p.m. as she was arriving home from work. Investigators said the pair forced the woman into a car and fired a gun during a struggle.

“They used a power drill to drill into (the victim’s) hand to get access to her cell phone and bank accounts,” investigators from the King County Sheriff’s Office wrote in an arrest report. “They then threatened her by telling her they were going to kill her, kill her family, feed her to the bears and dump her body far away.”
https://komonews.com/news/local/tren-de-aragua-linked-to-kidnapping-torture-of-burien-woman-us-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-violent-venezuelan-gang-trump-administration-tren-de-aragua

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4465 on: April 16, 2025, 10:47:55 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on April 16, 2025, 08:41:10 AM
The authorities are at it again saying 1 of the 2 Washington men who are alleged to have tried to murder the poor lady and feed her to the bears has probable Tren de Aragua gang ties.
They could have left out the probable gang affiliation, but no, they decided to bring that up. It just makes all Tren de Aragua members look bad.

"According to charging documents, Sanabria and Arnaez-Gutierrez kidnapped the woman from an apartment complex in Burien on January 21 around 10 p.m. as she was arriving home from work. Investigators said the pair forced the woman into a car and fired a gun during a struggle.

“They used a power drill to drill into (the victim’s) hand to get access to her cell phone and bank accounts,” investigators from the King County Sheriff’s Office wrote in an arrest report. “They then threatened her by telling her they were going to kill her, kill her family, feed her to the bears and dump her body far away.”
https://komonews.com/news/local/tren-de-aragua-linked-to-kidnapping-torture-of-burien-woman-us-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-violent-venezuelan-gang-trump-administration-tren-de-aragua

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4466 on: April 16, 2025, 10:51:20 AM »
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4467 on: April 16, 2025, 10:55:17 AM »
Actually sounds like they have some evidence that someone is will to certify under oath. Quite the change of pace for them.
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« Reply #4468 on: April 16, 2025, 02:12:49 PM »
This must be proof Garcia is a bad guy.
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« Reply #4469 on: April 16, 2025, 02:24:13 PM »
Who said Garcia is a bad guy ? Other than his wife ?
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