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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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illiniray

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What about the other things on the lists?

I haven't had time to dig through the minutiea. They look similar to the Canadian tariffs.

Japan might use quota tariffs to limit rice imports to protect domestic producers from dumping.
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Short summary of Trump


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Some of that shit doesn't even matter. Norway could probably have negative tariffs on US Cheese and they wouldn't import any, the laws might be on the books from decades ago.

It all gets down to - the US had the strongest economy in the world with the current setup. Why mess with perfection?

36 trillion in debt, 9.5 trillion coming due the next year, persistent inflation, rampant waste, fraud, and abuse of tax payer money. Hemorrhaging money to foreign countries, massive trade deficit with China, who doesn’t play by the rules. Losing good jobs and replacing them with service jobs filled by illegals. Maintaining this house of cards status quo is a worse existential crisis than climate change and Murph says it’s perfection.

Sorry Nvidia is down some and Jobu temporarily lost some of his 401K while we rework the global economy in our favor.
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36 trillion in debt, 9.5 trillion coming due the next year, persistent inflation, rampant waste, fraud, and abuse of tax payer money. Hemorrhaging money to foreign countries, massive trade deficit with China, who doesn’t play by the rules. Losing good jobs and replacing them with service jobs filled by illegals. Maintaining this house of cards status quo is a worse existential crisis than climate change and Murph says it’s perfection.

Sorry Nvidia is down some and Jobu temporarily lost some of his 401K while we rework the global economy in our favor.

Yes. This shit all happened within the last 4 years. Lol
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Trump isn't reworking shit. He has you guys totally fooled. It's comical.
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And in the meantime, I'm losing money.
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The financial position of the United States includes assets of at least $269 trillion (1576% of GDP) and debts of $145.8 trillion (852% of GDP) to produce a net worth of at least $123.8 trillion (723% of GDP).
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https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/11/economy/us-consumer-sentiment-april
It will not be apparent just how far we are up shits creek for about 3 months.

Then this will happen…
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Trump isn't reworking shit. He has you guys totally fooled. It's comical.

Dozens of countries have come to the negotiating table this week. EU sending representatives this weekend to strike deals.

Hilarious fence riding from a CNN article titled “Trump has 90 days to do 150 trade deals. Financial markets aren’t buying it”

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President Donald Trump and his advisers said this was the plan all along: Scare the bejesus out of the world by announcing astronomically high tariffs, get countries to come to the negotiating table, and — with the exception of China — back away from the most punishing trade barriers as America works out new trade agreements around the globe.

But Trump’s 90-day pause on his “reciprocal” tariffs that were never actually reciprocal gives his administration just three months to strike enormously complex trade deals with dozens of countries that it says are lining up to negotiate.

Financial markets aren’t buying it. Stocks have whipsawed as volatility has spiked. And other markets, including oil, bonds and the dollar, are sending a clear message of deep skepticism that Trump will be able to pull this one off.

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Following another steep sell-off Thursday, stocks appeared calmer — for now — and posted strong gains Friday.

The Dow ended the day higher by 619 points, or 1.56%. The S&P 500 rose 1.81% and the Nasdaq was 2.06% higher. Markets were buoyed by Boston Federal Reserve President Susan Collins telling the Financial Times Friday that the central bank would step in to support financial markets if there were signs of distress.

But stock market investors have been trading on a knife’s edge, and any announcement coming from the Trump administration on tariffs has the ability to send stocks surging or tumbling. For example, stocks plunged Thursday after the Trump administration clarified the math it had already used to set China’s massive 145% tariff. The street had believed the tariff was 125%. The Dow sank sharply, at one point falling more than 2,000 points.

In the 129-year history of the Dow Jones Industrial Average, the index has closed higher or lower by at least 1,000 points just 31 times. Four of those times happened in the past week.

The S&P 500 fell by just over 9% across the first week of April, its biggest one-week drop since March 2020. The benchmark index gained 5.7% this week, its biggest one-week gain since 2023.

Despite the remaining escalation with China the markets are up considerably from earlier in the week but Wall Street isn’t buying it? Lol they are literally buying it. Hey CNN: it isn’t that complex.
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But...why.

At the end of the day, it's all bullshit.
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Dozens of countries have come to the negotiating table this week. EU sending representatives this weekend to strike deals.

Hilarious fence riding from a CNN article titled “Trump has 90 days to do 150 trade deals. Financial markets aren’t buying it”

Despite the remaining escalation with China the markets are up considerably from earlier in the week but Wall Street isn’t buying it? Lol they are literally buying it. Hey CNN: it isn’t that complex.

Keep drinking the MAGA Kool Aid!  We have no idea what will happen during these trade negotiations. 

Nobody is rushing or “dying to make deals” with Trump.  Nobody is “kissing his ass.”  These countries will start negotiations, but they expect any potential agreement to be “fair, reciprocal and mutually beneficial.”  They will think long-term, knowing the Trump administration is chaotic and unreliable.

As to the EU, it offered zero-for-zero industrial tariffs, which was rejected.  I expect the EU will try to negotiate a new agreement, but it also plans to hedge against reliance on U.S. trade in response to the unpredictability of American policy.  It plans to pivot away from a U.S.-centric trade policy.




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But...why.

At the end of the day, it's all bullshit.

Yep.  Trump could have picked up the phone on his first day in office and opened a dialouge with our trading partners.  Instead his chaotic rollout of tariffs shook investors’ faith in our financial system.  Bonds are getting crushed again today.  China and Japan are selling US Treasuries; turning the crank to help Trump understand the concept of leverage.

 

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Dozens of countries have come to the negotiating table this week. EU sending representatives this weekend to strike deals.

Hilarious fence riding from a CNN article titled “Trump has 90 days to do 150 trade deals. Financial markets aren’t buying it”

Despite the remaining escalation with China the markets are up considerably from earlier in the week but Wall Street isn’t buying it? Lol they are literally buying it. Hey CNN: it isn’t that complex.

By negotiating table  you mean announcing in the middle of the night they are doubling tariffs on the US?

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Yep.  Trump could have picked up the phone on his first day in office and opened a dialouge with our trading partners.  Instead his chaotic rollout of tariffs shook investors’ faith in our financial system.  Bonds are getting crushed again today.  China and Japan are selling US Treasuries; turning the crank to help Trump understand the concept of leverage.

He's used to bullying. Took a look at China and said "What a cute little lizard I will step on it" and it turned out to be Godzilla

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Because I'm Mr. Positive, while the markets may be down,  at least measles cases are up!
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