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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #3810 on: March 02, 2025, 03:14:37 PM »
Yeah.
A cabinet meeting is almost the same as a foreign leader's 1st visit to the White House under a new administration in an attempt to move forward on a peace initiative.
Almost. Lol.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #3811 on: March 02, 2025, 03:17:54 PM »
"Attempt to move forward on a peace initiative" is a good one
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #3812 on: March 02, 2025, 03:28:14 PM »
The cabinet room is adjacent to the oval office



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“Why don’t you wear a suit?” a man asked Mr. Zelensky. “You’re at the highest level in this country’s office, and you refuse to wear a suit. Just want to see if — do you own a suit?” He added, “A lot of Americans have problems with you not respecting the office.


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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #3813 on: March 02, 2025, 04:09:15 PM »

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #3814 on: March 02, 2025, 04:24:01 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 02, 2025, 03:17:54 PM
"Attempt to move forward on a peace initiative" is a good one

Trump thought he had Zelensky on the Apprentice and wanted to say "you're fired" but Z held his ground.

It's looking more and more like the only group that could give Ukraine the security guarantees it needs is NATO without the United States.  At this point nothing the US says is worth the paper it is printed on.

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #3815 on: March 02, 2025, 05:13:36 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on March 02, 2025, 01:43:02 PM
After all, President Musk wears a suit every day.

Not one of them, Trump, JD or Little Marco, will ever know the honor and dignity and heroism Zelensky and the people of Ukraine demonstrate every single day.

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #3816 on: March 02, 2025, 06:27:29 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 02, 2025, 05:13:36 PM
LOL

I missed the joke. Or the error.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #3817 on: March 02, 2025, 06:41:13 PM »
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #3818 on: March 02, 2025, 06:42:16 PM »
Quote from: Custard’s Uber Driver on March 02, 2025, 06:27:29 PM
I missed the joke. Or the error.

I guess JD has proven he’s not a chicken shit. Captain Bonespurs on the other hand.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #3819 on: March 02, 2025, 06:43:17 PM »
Could you guys imagine Lieutenant or Captain Donald Trump in Vietnam. That would have been quite the scene.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #3820 on: March 02, 2025, 06:46:27 PM »
Here’s your reminder that no Trump has ever served in the military. His grandfather fled Germany to avoid serving. It’s family tradition!
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #3821 on: March 02, 2025, 07:26:10 PM »
Quote from: Custard’s Uber Driver on March 02, 2025, 06:46:27 PM
Here’s your reminder that no Trump has ever served in the military. His grandfather fled Germany to avoid serving. It’s family tradition!

But he always felt like he was in the military, because he stranded a prep school..
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #3822 on: March 02, 2025, 08:41:58 PM »


Because isolating Russia worked so well for the clown show admin that just left office !
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #3823 on: March 02, 2025, 09:36:39 PM »
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #3824 on: March 02, 2025, 10:21:08 PM »
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At the time of Ukraine’s independence from the Soviet Union in 1991, Ukraine held the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world, including an estimated 1,900 strategic warheads, 176 intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), and 44 strategic bombers. By 1996, Ukraine had returned all of its nuclear warheads to Russia in exchange for economic aid and security assurances, and in December 1994, Ukraine became a non-nuclear weapon state-party to the 1968 nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT). The last strategic nuclear delivery vehicle in Ukraine was eliminated in 2001 under the 1991 Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START). It took years of political maneuvering and diplomatic work, starting with the Lisbon Protocol in 1992, to remove the weapons and nuclear infrastructure from Ukraine. 

1990 Declaration of Sovereignty
1991 Minsk Agreement on Strategic Forces
1992 Lisbon Protocol
1993 Massandra Accords


1994 Trilateral Statement
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As the United States mediated between Russia and Ukraine, the three countries signed the Trilateral Statement on January 14, 1994. Ukraine committed to full disarmament, including strategic weapons, in exchange for economic support and security assurances from the United States and Russia.
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US Department of State Dispatch, January, 1994
The US-Russia-Ukraine Trilateral Statement and Annex were signed on 14 January, 1994 in Moscow by Presidents Clinton, Yeltsin and Kravchuk. The Statement and Annex:

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provided for the transfer of all nuclear weapons on the territory of Ukraine to Russia for dismantlement;
specified prompt compensation by Russia to Ukraine for the highly-enriched uranium in the transferred weapons;
provided for security assurances by the US, Russia and United Kingdom to Ukraine on Ukraine's accession to the Non-Proliferation Treaty as a non-nuclear weapon state; and reaffirmed the US commitment to assist the safe and secure dismantlement of nuclear forces through the Cooperative Threat Reduction (Nunn-Lugar) program
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More: https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/ukraine-nuclear-weapons-and-security-assurances-glance

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