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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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I know it’s hard for simpletons to contemplate there might be other reasons black people disproportionately struggle in the US other than systemic racism and white privilege. Somehow, Asians, (non-white) succeed at the highest level despite being criminally discriminated against in favor of other POC!

But digging any deeper than that requires something more than a simple rubber stamp subscription to surface level sociology pushed by ideologically captured academics.

It’s true, it’s not the only reason. But then Asians weren’t enslaved in America for 300+ years.
Wanting America to be better is not America-hating, it’s patriotism.

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And for the record, I don’t believe that fascist tendencies are the exclusive domain of the Republican Party in America. There are plenty of people in the Democratic Party, who are fascist enablers.
Wanting America to be better is not America-hating, it’s patriotism.

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Why you didn't get to see Jack Smith's Volume ll.
Lofl
The ranking members would be Dick Durbin and Jamie Raskin.

From Judge Cannon in the documents case.........

"Never before has the Department of Justice, prior to the conclusion of criminal proceedings
against a defendant—and absent a litigation-specific reason as appropriate in the case itself—
sought to disclose outside the Department a report prepared by a Special Counsel containing substantive and voluminous case information. Until now. According to the Department, this in camera disclosure to four members of Congress is necessary right now—before the conclusion of criminal proceedings—because Attorney General Garland has “limited time” left in his tenure as the head of the Department and wishes “to comply with the historical practice of all Special Counsel,” and also because there is “legislative interest in information about Special Counsel investigations, in order to consider possible legislative reforms regarding the use of special counsels”

"These statements do not reflect well on the Department. There is no
“historical practice” of providing Special Counsel reports to Congress, even on a limited basis,
pending conclusion of criminal proceedings. In fact, there is not one instance of this happening until now [see Tr. 21, 26]

"To the contrary, some of the same members to whom the Department wishes to present Volume II have urged Attorney General Garland to release Volume II to the public immediately, even if doing so requires dismissal of the charges as to Defendants Nauta and De Oliveira. Supra n.10. In short, the Department offers no valid justification for the purportedly urgent desire to release to members of Congress case information in an ongoing criminal proceeding."

"Prosecutors play a special role in our criminal justice system and are entrusted and expected to do justice.........the Department of Justice’s position on Defendants’ Emergency Motion as to Volume II has not been faithful to that obligation."

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Trump appointed judge rules in Favor Trump. That’s quite shocking.
Wanting America to be better is not America-hating, it’s patriotism.

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Trump appointed judge rules in Favor Trump. That’s quite shocking.
We'll just skip the part about the 2 defendants whose cases are under appeal.
Sounds kinda fascisty.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2025, 08:33:28 AM by No one in Mn »

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Not sure when I’ve ever expressed any specific concern over DEI causing white people to fail. I am firmly against systemic discrimination on the basis of race or sex. I don’t give a shit how good the intentions are, it’s bullshit policy that directly goes against what it’s purported to solve.

If we want to solve for equality of opportunity (and we should) then maybe our system should address it much sooner than during the professional hiring process. Otherwise you’re just treating the symptom whilst leaving the disease to fester.

bullshit. You're just like all the Trumpers, they know they need to have an advantage or they will lose, so they are trying to press their advantage by trying as hard as hell not to level the playing field.

Why are the Trumpers against the H1B visas? Not because they are worried they will "depress wages" - it's because they know these immigrants are flat out better than them, and they are scared shitless.

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The Trumpers are not against the H1-B system though.. they favor that legalized slavery
Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

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And for the record, I don’t believe that fascist tendencies are the exclusive domain of the Republican Party in America. There are plenty of people in the Democratic Party, who are fascist enablers.

The privileged poor White Appalachians appear to agree that the Dems are fascists!
Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

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It’s true, it’s not the only reason. But then Asians weren’t enslaved in America for 300+ years.

Now do the White poor Appalachians....
Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

Tempo: "PAMan is a pot stirrer and agent provocateur"

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The Trumpers are not against the H1-B system though.. they favor that legalized slavery

Did you follow that whole chaos? Musk saying we need H1-B visas because it's like an NBA team signing Jokovic, and Ramiswamy saying American culture is shit and we don't value nerds so Americans are all stupid and we need to bring in immigrants on H1B

That didn't sit well with the Bannon crowd, who said American companies should hire Americans and train them instead of hiring H1B visa workers. I guess Apple needs to bring in high school grads, and hire a bunch of professors and run an internal college to produce Masters degree level employees on their own, and THEN train them how to be iOS developers, all while paying them for 4 years plus, of course half of them will wash out and 25% will take all their training and go to other companies.

Yet what Bannon says makes sense to the base.

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Did you follow that whole chaos? Musk saying we need H1-B visas because it's like an NBA team signing Jokovic, and Ramiswamy saying American culture is shit and we don't value nerds so Americans are all stupid and we need to bring in immigrants on H1B

That didn't sit well with the Bannon crowd, who said American companies should hire Americans and train them instead of hiring H1B visa workers. I guess Apple needs to bring in high school grads, and hire a bunch of professors and run an internal college to produce Masters degree level employees on their own, and THEN train them how to be iOS developers, all while paying them for 4 years plus, of course half of them will wash out and 25% will take all their training and go to other companies.

Yet what Bannon says makes sense to the base.

In case you haven't noticed, Bannon is on the outside looking in these days.
Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

Tempo: "PAMan is a pot stirrer and agent provocateur"

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In case you haven't noticed, Bannon is on the outside looking in these days.

Ramaswamy is the one outside.

Bannon controls the base.

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Bannon controls the base.

Has not gotten him too far on the H1-B issue or ditching Musk.....
Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

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Has not gotten him too far on the H1-B issue or ditching Musk.....

Control the base, control Trump. He knows what he's doing. Musk was already drawing the ire of the base over the visa thing, and now he's telling Daddy Trump that his AI plan is stupid. Trump will tire of Musk very quickly. Doesn't need his money anymore.

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Bannon controls the base.

Money talks and Bannon lost to Musk.  Trump has a shiny new manfriend now.  It appears Bannon no longer brings anything to the table Trump or MAGA need. 

Can he still be disruptive enough to matter?  Or will he end up like Ernst Röhm?

« Last Edit: January 23, 2025, 12:02:10 PM by alum74 »