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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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Wow…

https://x.com/texaslindsay_/status/1747114224189309376?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
All of the breaking news that's not fit to hear, brought to you by "we and other news organizations."
So you won't hear it.

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Wow…

https://x.com/texaslindsay_/status/1747114224189309376?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Maybe people in this country don't want a Hitler wannabe lying mofo criminal nutcase as president. I sure as hell don't want that shit in the White House. Get a respectable GOP candidate, I could vote Republican as I did in '80, 84, 88 and 2000. I'm not crazy about Biden. His beliefs about the damned illegal migrants storming this country pisses me off. He sure as hell ain't perfect but he's better than that POS Trump, who only cares about Trump.

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Are we going to pretend the CNNs and MSNBCs of the world wouldn’t do the same thing if the economy went down 10% under a Republican president? We can see that very thing in the article PAman posted about it going down under Trump in the pandemic. Like, no shit, Sherlock we literally closed a portion of our economy indefinitely.

A goddamn potato could have been taken over as president January 2021 and overseen stock market growth due to reopening of the economy/pent up demand.

Great story. The S&P 500 is at an all time high - not just recovered from COVID.

You can't blame any of this on Presidents. Bill Clinton saw a huge run up in Stock Prices. A goddamn potato could have done that too - at the beginning of Clinton's tenure the first web browser was released. A massive percentage of the current run up in the S&P is attributed to 3-4 companies, Nvidia, Amazon, Microsoft, Google. Good to be president and point at the stock market in the huge expansion of AI.

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His beliefs about the damned illegal migrants storming this country pisses me off.

This hyperbole is why we'll never address any issues regarding the border and immigration.

"Storming the Country"? The Russians are storming Ukraine. Hamas stormed Israel. Israel is storming Gaza.

We aren't at war with a bunch of people trying to escape violence or poverty, many of them children. We need to have a better strategy to deal with the fact that a bunch of people are trying to leave their current country and gain entry to ours, but "storming" implies a malicious intent which is not in evidence. Unless you really hate Big Cabbage and think that a bunch of Mexicans enabling that cabal to flood store shelves with cheap cole slaw by toiling in the fields in Salinas is a threat to our way of life.

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Great story. The S&P 500 is at an all time high - not just recovered from COVID.

You can't blame any of this on Presidents. Bill Clinton saw a huge run up in Stock Prices. A goddamn potato could have done that too - at the beginning of Clinton's tenure the first web browser was released. A massive percentage of the current run up in the S&P is attributed to 3-4 companies, Nvidia, Amazon, Microsoft, Google. Good to be president and point at the stock market in the huge expansion of AI.

yeah that's what printing 6 trillion dollars will do, the big corps and foreign governments will suck those dollars right up.

https://www.gurufocus.com/economic_indicators/5860/inflation-adjusted-sp-500-index-price

not exactly all time high again if you account for inflation. Inflation is basically theft to the lower classes since wages aren't increasing at the same rates.
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not exactly all time high again if you account for inflation. Inflation is basically theft to the lower classes since wages aren't increasing at the same rates.

The primary index for wages is "The sign on the McDonalds down the street". Starting wages at McD's down the street from me have gone from $15 to $23 in the last few years. That's beyond inflation generically.

Inflation rates are a great generic click bait - but nobody wants to drill down. The most noticeable day to day inflation has been eggs and butter. Both are experiencing *deflation* right now - egg prices are going down very rapidly. Funny when an avian flu causes prices to double, and because of those doubled prices, when the flu passes producers go nuts rebuilding flocks in order to grab that filthy lucre.

In most recent inflation data, the biggest issue is housing. For that you can point your finger in three places.
1) Jerome Powell for raising interest rates in order to drive down the price of eggs - because interest rates will really get that avian flu done
2) NIMBY's blocking housing production
3) Histrionics about THE BORDER!!! increasing labor costs for construction, especially in Florida which has an acute need because of mulltiple hurricanes. Fastest housing inflation in the nation.

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yeah that's what printing 6 trillion dollars will do, the big corps and foreign governments will suck those dollars right up.

https://www.gurufocus.com/economic_indicators/5860/inflation-adjusted-sp-500-index-price

not exactly all time high again if you account for inflation. Inflation is basically theft to the lower classes since wages aren't increasing at the same rates.

I don't believe this has actually happened though this time around.
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This hyperbole is why we'll never address any issues regarding the border and immigration.

"Storming the Country"? The Russians are storming Ukraine. Hamas stormed Israel. Israel is storming Gaza.

We aren't at war with a bunch of people trying to escape violence or poverty, many of them children. We need to have a better strategy to deal with the fact that a bunch of people are trying to leave their current country and gain entry to ours, but "storming" implies a malicious intent which is not in evidence. Unless you really hate Big Cabbage and think that a bunch of Mexicans enabling that cabal to flood store shelves with cheap cole slaw by toiling in the fields in Salinas is a threat to our way of life.
I respect your reply. Storming is too strong,  "waves" would have been a better term for me to use. But this border situation needs addressing and repaired. Not being done with the current administration nor administrations for decades.

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I respect your reply. Storming is too strong,  "waves" would have been a better term for me to use. But this border situation needs addressing and repaired. Not being done with the current administration nor administrations for decades.

Does it need to be addressed? The people (a.k.a. Corporations) donating to the current and previous administrations *prefer* the current situation! The Trump Org has almost certainly employed hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to their own financial benefit for decades.

The difference between the Democrats and the Republicans is that the Republicans dishonestly tell their voters that they actually want the status quo to change. It's to their benefit to lose occasional elections in order to blame the Democrats for the status quo. If they were in constant power, eventually their voters would realize that the GOP *wants* the situation as is.

An adjustment to the current situation regarding immigration from the South would imply either huge increases of costs in consumer goods due to a lack of labor or a huge increase in costs of consumer goods due to an increased cost to producers of employing immigrant labor.

Costs to consumers would increase because producers would not want to suck up the costs themselves. And no - it would not increase wages for Citizens - even in times of higher unemployment there has never been a flight to lettuce picking jobs amongst unemployed assembly line manufacturing workers.


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Cable news can run whatever they want. Fox selectively reports all the time. They just aren't so honest about it.
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“Taking a trip? Where to?”  -“Wherever I end up, I guess. -“Man, I wish I was you." -Well, hang in there.”

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Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

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Anyone read up on project 2025 yet? I recommend reading from the heritage site and the wiki article.

As a recovering libertarian and moderate conservative, I was never fooled by Trump. After he took over the Republican Party, I became independent and moved more to the center. I know, that looks left in this political climate.

I know if Biden had a plan like Project 2025, I would not vote for him. I am pretty sure the Dems would dump him.

Clinton always said to read his plan. Go read Trump's plan for yourself. He is not keeping it a secret.
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