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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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In all seriousness though, do you expect Trump to "get tough" with Putin? I'd be quite surprised if that happened.
Jesus, Mary, Joseph. In case you've forgotten, Trump was in office for 4 years already and Putin didn't do anything like take Crimea or the Donbass regions like he did under Obama and the experienced foreign policy guy.

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Jesus, Mary, Joseph. In case you've forgotten, Trump was in office for 4 years already and Putin didn't do anything like take Crimea or the Donbass regions like he did under Obama and the experienced foreign policy guy.

This seems to be really difficult for people to process.
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whatever. He's just shitposting from his basement, maybe his mom put on a porn filter for the internet.
Time to just ignore him. At least Mn reads as sincere, Custard is just trying to get people's goat.

Put him on mute. He earned it.

None of these things are true except I do try to get people’s goat at times. But hey, we all do. It’s part of the charm here. Alum himself is certainly no stranger to shitposting.

The response to the address was overwhelmingly positive—Alum finds himself in a very small minority of America Last relics like Nichi who openly root for Europe, Canada, and Mexico because TDS.
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Biden said that he had done all that he could to secure the border.
In her rebuttal last night Slotkin said, apparently dismissing the past 4 years, that everyone wants a secure border.

Trump, with his best line of the night: "it turns out all we really needed was a new President."

That was pretty awesome. The “Pocahontas” jab was great too. Many exceptional moments. Where are all the hypocrites that said Biden was fine and Trump was senile? Seemed quite sharp last night.
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Jesus, Mary, Joseph. In case you've forgotten, Trump was in office for 4 years already and Putin didn't do anything like take Crimea or the Donbass regions like he did under Obama and the experienced foreign policy guy.

Trump is the guy the Soviets assisted in getting the job in the first place. Of course they were never going to hurt his efforts.  Now Trump is going to help Putin get a favorable deal in Ukraine. Their investment in Trump is going to pay off in the short term. The resulting militarization of Europe, on the otherhand, will be the blowback for the Soviets.

This really should not be hard to comprehend, but apparently it is for quite a few.
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Jesus, Mary, Joseph. In case you've forgotten, Trump was in office for 4 years already and Putin didn't do anything like take Crimea or the Donbass regions like he did under Obama and the experienced foreign policy guy.

it's pretty simple really. Biden was a pain in the ass for Putin. Trump was the best thing for him since sliced bread. Why would he upset the apple cart by invading Ukraine while he already has the White House? Lose the White House, it's all hands on deck. Better cause some chaos at get your man back in office

See also: return Iranian hostages AFTER the US election so you can install someone who will sell you arms to fund a covert operation in Nicaragua

See also: cut a deal for a cease fire and return of Israeli hostages AFTER you get the guy who doesn't want to let you invade Gaza out of office

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None of these things are true except I do try to get people’s goat at times. But hey, we all do. It’s part of the charm here. Alum himself is certainly no stranger to shitposting.

The response to the address was overwhelmingly positive—Alum finds himself in a very small minority of America Last relics like Nichi who openly root for Europe, Canada, and Mexico because TDS.

Now let's hear from a grownup, who is not a Trump turd-polisher.

Why Trump’s Speech Cheered Me Up
by William Kristol

I can’t tell a lie. I didn’t watch Donald Trump’s address to the joint session of Congress last night.

Why make myself miserable by having to listen—for over an hour and a half!—to his lies and boasting, his bigotry and idiocy? Isn’t this, I told myself, why God invented transcripts? The Father of all mercies surely intended for us to read the speech later, with less pain and suffering.

So that’s what I did. I went to sleep unencumbered with visions of Trump speaking. I slept soundly. (Well, as soundly as one does these days.)

And when I was awake and fortified by a large mug of Major Dickason’s coffee, I read the complete transcript. I even watched a few clips to get a sense of how it had looked.

Weirdly, this cheered me up.

Why?

Because the speech was childish, silly, unimpressive—and, I suspect, unsuccessful.  Early in the address, Trump boasted about how well he was doing:

In fact, it has been stated by many that the first month of our presidency—it’s our presidency—is the most successful in the history of our nation.  By many.

And what makes it even more impressive is that do you know who Number 2 is? George Washington. How about that? How about that?

How about that? I guess some true believers will agree that Trump is outdoing Washington. But as Sarah Longwell’s most recent focus groups suggest, many of Trump’s more ambivalent and less cult-like voters seem to have qualms about his performance so far, particularly about his administration’s lack of focus and the constant chaos.
The polling numbers confirm the findings of the focus groups.

Trump’s approval rating has been sinking. Four days after his inauguration, Trump had, according to the FiveThirtyEight averages, an approval rating of 49.7 percent and a disapproval rating of 41.5 percent. Now he’s underwater at 47.6 percent approval vs. 47.9 percent disapproval.

Is last night’s speech likely to have done anything to stop or reverse the trend of Trump losing a percentage point a week?
I don’t see it. If you weren’t already on the Trump train, the speech gave you no reason to jump aboard.

And if, as seems to be the case, the economy is slowing and inflation isn’t; and if, as seems likely to be the case, the kleptocracy and plutocracy of the Trump administration become more and more evident; and if, as will surely be the case, it becomes more and more obvious that in foreign policy Trump is on the side of Vladimir Putin—where are Trump’s numbers going to be in three months?

Lower, I think. Trump could have used last night to try to fix some of the perceptions that have been hurting him in the eyes of the public. Instead, he boasted that he’s doing a better job than George Washington. He barely addressed the issue of inflation—casting off responsibility for the price of eggs to Joe Biden and telling farmers and consumers that their lives could actually get a bit more turbulent. That isn’t going to help him with anyone not already in MAGA world. Nor will it help him to keep on highlighting his sidekick, Elon Musk, whose approval ratings are lower than Trump’s.

To stop Trump from doing the damage he could do to this nation and the world, Congress—especially some Republicans in Congress—will have to stand up to him. These are not strong individuals who are used to doing the right thing no matter what. But opinion polls going in the wrong direction for Trump might make it easier to persuade some of these solons to reconsider at least a bit.

None of this is to minimize the damage Trump can do and is likely to do. And none of this is meant to reassure us that progress towards autocracy will necessarily be checked by some erosion in Trump’s poll numbers. The challenges facing us over the next four years are daunting.

Still, last night made me slightly more hopeful that we can meet them.


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I didn’t watch the speech, I read a transcript lol gtfooh

That address was super energizing and it has dems even more scared about the irrelevance of their party than they already were.

https://x.com/eithanhaim/status/1897277982588522771?s=46
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Trump is the guy the Soviets assisted in getting the job in the first place. Of course they were never going to hurt his efforts.  Now Trump is going to help Putin get a favorable deal in Ukraine. Their investment in Trump is going to pay off in the short term. The resulting militarization of Europe, on the otherhand, will be the blowback for the Soviets.

This really should not be hard to comprehend, but apparently it is for quite a few.

You’re in full blown denial. They did little to get him elected—not enough to offset that fake Steele Dossiere and other DMV funded election interference and Russia fear mongering you’ve eagerly lapped up but has mostly been debunked and swept under the rug. Putin got much more under Democrats and nothing under Trump. Under Biden’s watch they aligned themselves financially and militarily with our antagonists that are far more dangerous than Russia themselves, but that’s also Trump’s fault apparently. Pure delusion at this point. Still haven’t seen a rebuttal for me saying the isolation pushed them into the waiting arms of China and NK.
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That’s funny. What hold does a depleted former superpower—that we don’t even need to trade with—have over us that would compel our government to do anything of the sort?

There are 3 prevailing theories I know of.
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I didn’t watch the speech, I read a transcript lol gtfooh

That address was super energizing and it has dems even more scared about the irrelevance of their party than they already were.

https://x.com/eithanhaim/status/1897277982588522771?s=46

Another one of the many dipshits you follow on Twitter.  Custard's like a hopeless addict.  He won't be able to start his recovery and journey back to reality until our country hits a very crashing, painful bottom.


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the MAGAs here gave me shit about growing lettuce, the official position of Trump's ag secretary on how to deal with avian flu? Everyone should raise chickens

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GQlo3BOuaDU

I read somewhere they were going to stop killing off infected flocks, and go to vaccines instead. We are going to wind up with autistic chickens!
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Another one of the many dipshits you follow on Twitter.  Custard's like a hopeless addict.  He won't be able to start his recovery and journey back to reality until our country hits a very crashing, painful bottom.

An actual doctor who risked it all to stand up for kids versus a retired government worker on the 5th most popular Illini fan forum. Hmmm
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The response to the address was overwhelmingly positive—Alum finds himself in a very small minority of America Last relics like Nichi who openly root for Europe, Canada, and Mexico because TDS.

The response was so so for a first sou

This is overstated but  not wrong: https://newrepublic.com/post/192338/donald-trump-poll-speech-congress

World first, humanity first relics like me consider  Europe, UK, Canada, Australia, and Mexico to be allies, not enemies.

Trump wants to bully our allies, violate long standing treaties, and appease Putin?
« Last Edit: March 05, 2025, 06:16:15 PM by illiniray »
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An actual doctor who risked it all to stand up for kids versus a retired government worker on the 5th most popular Illini fan forum. Hmmm

I didn't follow the link. Who is this actual doctor? An antivaxxer?
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