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Next Years Roster Thoughts

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Dominic

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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #285 on: June 02, 2022, 02:19:23 PM »
Quote from: ILLINICHIEF on June 02, 2022, 12:03:46 AM
Mayer did his in 22-23 minutes a game, Grandison did his in 25-26 minutes per game...oh and there is still the "I played on a NC team experience as well" thing he has going for him, and the improvment on defense. Next dumb comment.

They each played 15 minutes a game on a #1 seed in 2020-21. Grandison has been the better player each of the last 2 seasons.

Fact this guy is looked at as a big difference maker by some of you (even 247 sports which is asinine) shows you just don’t look at stats.

A 6’9 guy that shoots 40% from the field is not a positive.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #286 on: June 02, 2022, 03:34:58 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on June 02, 2022, 02:19:23 PM
They each played 15 minutes a game on a #1 seed in 2020-21. Grandison has been the better player each of the last 2 seasons.

Fact this guy is looked at as a big difference maker by some of you (even 247 sports which is asinine) shows you just don’t look at stats.

A 6’9 guy that shoots 40% from the field is not a positive.

14 wins next year… 🙄 😂
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #287 on: June 02, 2022, 04:01:34 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on June 02, 2022, 02:19:23 PM
They each played 15 minutes a game on a #1 seed in 2020-21. Grandison has been the better player each of the last 2 seasons.

Fact this guy is looked at as a big difference maker by some of you (even 247 sports which is asinine) shows you just don’t look at stats.

A 6’9 guy that shoots 40% from the field is not a positive.

40% from areas, most other 6'9" guys don't even shoot it from.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #288 on: June 02, 2022, 05:20:57 PM »
I'll ask this here: anyone get the invite for the 6/9 Guenther, Jr., Bielema, and B1G Conference Championship Trophy meet up at Olympia Fields?
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #289 on: June 03, 2022, 12:20:49 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on June 01, 2022, 04:24:16 PM
Mayer shot 40/32/70.
Grandison 45/41/82

Next question
Sure: Why are you comparing a 6-6 3-guard with a 6-9 forward?

Anyway, if you look at field attempts per game, you're talking about a whopping 1.4 missed shots per game difference.

Mayer: 8.8*.6 + 4.12*.68 = exp. 8.1 missed shots per game
Grandison: 7.4*.55 + 4.4*.59 = exp. 6.7 missed shots per game

Mayer averaged 8.8 rebounds over 40 minutes. Grandison averaged 6.0. In real terms, the difference was 1.2 rpg, so Mayer essentially makes up for any field goal shooting discrepancy even if they played the same role and we ignore that Mayer's team was 1 seed who tied for a conference title with the national champs.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #290 on: June 03, 2022, 01:05:06 PM »
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #291 on: June 03, 2022, 01:46:15 PM »
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #292 on: June 03, 2022, 02:41:56 PM »
Quote from: ILLINICHIEF on June 03, 2022, 01:46:15 PM
Well his body fat will certainly decrease.... !!!!!!

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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #293 on: June 03, 2022, 03:16:26 PM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on June 03, 2022, 12:20:49 PM
Sure: Why are you comparing a 6-6 3-guard with a 6-9 forward?

Anyway, if you look at field attempts per game, you're talking about a whopping 1.4 missed shots per game difference.

Mayer: 8.8*.6 + 4.12*.68 = exp. 8.1 missed shots per game
Grandison: 7.4*.55 + 4.4*.59 = exp. 6.7 missed shots per game

Mayer averaged 8.8 rebounds over 40 minutes. Grandison averaged 6.0. In real terms, the difference was 1.2 rpg, so Mayer essentially makes up for any field goal shooting discrepancy even if they played the same role and we ignore that Mayer's team was 1 seed who tied for a conference title with the national champs.

Don't feed the troll.

Will take Mayer all day over Grandison. Anybody who understands basketball would. When Grandison was not hitting the three, he was pretty much a non factor and played below average D.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #294 on: June 03, 2022, 09:41:37 PM »
Note that Mayer was invited to the combine.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #295 on: June 03, 2022, 10:01:01 PM »
Illinois men's basketball signee Ty Rodgers was one of 12 players to be selected to the USA Basketball Men’s U18 FIBA Americas Championship National Team, which was announced on Friday. https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Article/Illinois-signee-Ty-Rodgers-makes-Team-USA-U18-National-team-Illini-basketball-Brad-Underwood-188289783/
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #296 on: June 03, 2022, 10:42:41 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 03, 2022, 10:01:01 PM
Illinois men's basketball signee Ty Rodgers was one of 12 players to be selected to the USA Basketball Men’s U18 FIBA Americas Championship National Team, which was announced on Friday. https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Article/Illinois-signee-Ty-Rodgers-makes-Team-USA-U18-National-team-Illini-basketball-Brad-Underwood-188289783/


Too bad he sucks. Going to wash out at this level per Dumbfcknic.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #297 on: June 06, 2022, 06:07:31 PM »
Rodgers starting



Rodgers with 7 points, 4 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal, and a +21 in 9 minutes in the first half.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #298 on: June 06, 2022, 07:49:08 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 06, 2022, 06:07:31 PM
Rodgers starting



Rodgers with 7 points, 4 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal, and a +21 in 9 minutes in the first half.
He needs 3-5 more minutes.
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Re: Next Years Roster Thoughts
« Reply #299 on: June 08, 2022, 01:34:15 AM »
Rodgers looks like a college football player trying to play basketball.  He’s got a football body.  Skill wise he’s well below average at dribbling, and shooting, in what you’d expect to see from a perimeter player.  So he will probably play the 4.

Sure Underwood will compare him to Draymond Green or JaeSean Tate, but most low skill under height 4s wash out at high D1 but can put up big numbers at mid-majors which I think is a level Rodgers athleticism works at best.  His role at Illinois will be similar to Verdonk, but a better finisher around the basket.



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