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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2022, 12:02:23 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on March 08, 2022, 11:55:36 AM
yeah he had a pretty historic year statistically... I don't get it

like who was the last guy to average 21/10 in the big ten for the season?  Glen Robinson?

Oturu did it.  He and Kofi are the only ones since 1992-93.  Kofi’s team also won the league, and the media that covered the league gave three guys more votes than him.

Will never ever get it.  It’s complete nonsense.  Hopefully Kofi is mad about it too and ready to show out.
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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2022, 12:05:01 PM »
Yeah I agree Spark. Gard deserves COTY and Kofi should’ve got POTY. Those two awards definitely should’ve been split in my opinion. I thought they’d do that is why I figured Underwood would get it after they announced Davis as POTY if that’s a little clearer.

Kofi had a historic season and to be disregarded like that is baffling! No other big has done that in over 20 years at least! Totally pissed!
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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2022, 12:05:06 PM »
Ah I forgot about Oturu, yeah I hope this is motivation in March!  Not that he's a particularly unmotivated player regardless but yeah what a joke!
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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2022, 12:09:18 PM »
Robinson might've too, actually, his conference-only stats are incomplete on sports-reference.  He had 30/11 in all games but I can't find conference-only.

There have been a heck of a lot of really good bigs in this conference over the last few decades that didn't put up 20/10 a night though.
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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2022, 12:12:57 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on March 08, 2022, 11:58:49 AM
He shot 40% or worse from the floor in almost half his conference games.

This was written in early January when Davis went off for 37 against the team people thought would win the league.  At that point even Kofi going off for 37 against the team that actually shared the title with him didn’t move the needle.  It’s absolutely absurd.

Agree.
Murray or Kofi all day along over Davis.
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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2022, 12:14:52 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on March 08, 2022, 12:12:57 PM
Agree.
Murray or Kofi all day along over Davis.

And I felt like Murray lost it missing all those free throws down the stretch against IL to lose that game. Just a complete choke job.
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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2022, 12:15:53 PM »
To not have the COTY or POTY when you win the conference is absurd. Total horseshit.
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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2022, 12:33:25 PM »
Kofi is very deserving of POTY, that said, hard to argue Davis and what he did on a team projected 9/10th preseason in the league let alone Top 10 nationally.

Frazier is deserving of his awards/status, actually agree with McConnell.

Coach of the year has to be Gard hands down....and if the same rational is used, then Davis should be POTY. Conference only imo though.

Wisky wins how many without Davis?
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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2022, 12:36:53 PM »
Quote from: ILLINICHIEF on March 08, 2022, 12:33:25 PM
Kofi is very deserving of POTY, that said, hard to argue Davis and what he did on a team projected 9/10th preseason in the league let alone Top 10 nationally.

Frazier is deserving of his awards/status, actually agree with McConnell.

Coach of the year has to be Gard hands down....and if the same rational is used, then Davis should be POTY. Conference only imo though.

Wisky wins how many without Davis?

Who knows?

They'd have lost some games he won them.

They also easily could've beaten Rutgers (11 points for Davis), Illinois (5/19 shooting), Michigan State (8/20 shooting) with a more efficient player getting his minutes.
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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2022, 12:50:48 PM »
https://twitter.com/jgtrends/status/1501262516738875394?s=20&t=g-wUy99GnaO8uO_BraCmDQ

How many games would Illinois have won without Kofi?  Pretty much all our players were -'s with him off the court.
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« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2022, 12:53:20 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on March 08, 2022, 11:51:39 AM
Gard SHOULD be COY.  Davis has no business being the conference POY.

And Kofi got left off at least one media all-conference ballot.  Davis Ivey and Murray consensus, Kofi isn’t.

Somehow being preseason POY and playing better than expected was held against him.  Will never understand it.

Perception made the difference. Most people would probably say Wisconsin overachieved quite a bit, and Illinois under achieved a bit. Kofi also had a couple of duds down the stretch.
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« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2022, 12:53:46 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2022, 12:54:24 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 08, 2022, 12:53:20 PM
Perception made the difference. Most people would probably say Wisconsin overachieved quite a bit, and Illinois under achieved a bit. Kofi also had a couple of duds down the stretch.

Which duds?

Compare them to the duds Davis had in the league.  Davis went three games down the stretch where he shot 35% from the floor.  Kofi shot less than 35% from the floor in two total games.

Agree it was 'perception', or narrative, but that's incredibly dumb.  And basically the opposite rationale that explained last year's voting.

Johnny Davis had games of 15% shooting (four points!!), 22% shooting, 26% shooting, 31% shooting, 33% shooting, 36% shooting in Big Ten games.

Kofi's five worst Big Ten games were two games shooting 33%, one at 44%, one at 46%, and one at 50%.  All in double figures.

And underachieved?  We have had among the most injuries of any team nationally and won the league.
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« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2022, 12:55:01 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on March 08, 2022, 12:50:48 PM
https://twitter.com/jgtrends/status/1501262516738875394?s=20&t=g-wUy99GnaO8uO_BraCmDQ

How many games would Illinois have won without Kofi?  Pretty much all our players were -'s with him off the court.

Fair enough, but I think we find a way to win more with our talent without Kofi than Wisky does without Davis...opinions are just that.
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