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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #195 on: March 03, 2025, 10:13:07 PM »
Just took in a couple more minutes. The shilling for Putin started about 9 minutes in, nothing egregious yet though.
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #196 on: March 19, 2025, 06:12:25 PM »
Ever since the ramp up to this conflict I’ve sought out different perspectives trying to understand the whole situation better besides just the propaganda we are inundated with. So I have checked in periodically on RT (I know, the jokes write themselves) but hadn’t in a long time. After the call with Putin and Trump the other day I decided to see what their perspective is. Found this article to be interesting:

https://www.rt.com/russia/614497-ivan-timofeev-trump-putin-call/
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #197 on: March 19, 2025, 07:39:32 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 19, 2025, 06:12:25 PM
Ever since the ramp up to this conflict I’ve sought out different perspectives trying to understand the whole situation better besides just the propaganda we are inundated with. So I have checked in periodically on RT (I know, the jokes write themselves) but hadn’t in a long time. After the call with Putin and Trump the other day I decided to see what their perspective is. Found this article to be interesting:

https://www.rt.com/russia/614497-ivan-timofeev-trump-putin-call/
And here's one from a guy at the University of Texas in Austin, Tx U.S.A.

https://thehill.com/opinion/5198022-ukraine-conflict-disinformation/
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #198 on: March 19, 2025, 08:19:26 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on March 19, 2025, 07:39:32 PM
And here's one from a guy at the University of Texas in Austin, Tx U.S.A.

https://thehill.com/opinion/5198022-ukraine-conflict-disinformation/

Wow. It’s alarming how many people, like he said in the article, have been trained by propaganda that Putin bad, Z good, end of story. The fact is that the West is very complicit in this entire fiasco.

I’d much rather have a functional diplomatic relationship with Russia like we’ve had most of my lifetime rather than the isolation bullshit the West tried that just pushed them closer to our enemies.   

But Alum, Ray, PAMan and Murph will tell you that was “leading with strength” and Trump reopening diplomacy is him doing Putin’s bidding.
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #199 on: March 19, 2025, 08:21:37 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on March 19, 2025, 07:39:32 PM
And here's one from a guy at the University of Texas in Austin, Tx U.S.A.

https://thehill.com/opinion/5198022-ukraine-conflict-disinformation/

Two good rebuttals of Kuperman’s opinion piece on Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1jeia8w/sadly_trump_is_right_on_ukraine/?rdt=58936

See posts by throwAway9a8b7c111 and Ok_Transition220
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #200 on: March 19, 2025, 08:22:00 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on March 19, 2025, 07:39:32 PM
And here's one from a guy at the University of Texas in Austin, Tx U.S.A.

https://thehill.com/opinion/5198022-ukraine-conflict-disinformation/

Well - we know who YOU will be rooting for on Friday. traitor
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #201 on: March 19, 2025, 08:25:06 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 19, 2025, 08:19:26 PM
Wow. It’s alarming how many people, like he said in the article, have been trained by propaganda that Putin bad, Z good, end of story. The fact is that the West is very complicit in this entire fiasco.

I’d much rather have a functional diplomatic relationship with Russia like we’ve had most of my lifetime rather than the isolation bullshit the West tried that just pushed them closer to our enemies.   

But Alum, Ray, PAMan and Murph will tell you that was “leading with strength” and Trump reopening diplomacy is him doing Putin’s bidding.
And the author and his sources will be attacked as Russian shills and Putin puppets.

Edit: and me, for posting it.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2025, 08:26:43 PM by No one in Mn »
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #202 on: March 19, 2025, 08:38:18 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on March 19, 2025, 08:25:06 PM
And the author and his sources will be attacked as Russian shills and Putin puppets.

Edit: and me, for posting it.

I’ll give you credit for at least not posting an op-ed from a smuck who is a member of a Moscow-based think tank and discussion forum.   
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #203 on: March 19, 2025, 10:48:31 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on March 19, 2025, 08:38:18 PM
I’ll give you credit for at least not posting an op-ed from a smuck who is a member of a Moscow-based think tank and discussion forum.   

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #204 on: March 21, 2025, 01:18:55 PM »
Who blew up the gas facility?
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #205 on: March 21, 2025, 02:47:03 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 21, 2025, 01:18:55 PM
Who blew up the gas facility?

The right.

The left blows up Starbucks, not Taco Bell
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #206 on: May 01, 2025, 02:50:44 PM »
Always trust content from The PAXiXeXemHimHerTheyThemMan

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/us-army-drones-shift-20cc5753
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #207 on: May 02, 2025, 02:27:05 AM »
Custard He/Him is skeptical that the military industrial complex learned much from the Ukraine war other than new ways to scam the American taxpayer.
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #208 on: May 02, 2025, 08:23:24 AM »
Quote from: Custard on May 02, 2025, 02:27:05 AM
Custard He/Him is skeptical that the military industrial complex learned much from the Ukraine war other than new ways to scam the American taxpayer.

Your guy Trump proposing s big defense spending increase!
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #209 on: May 02, 2025, 10:03:05 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 01, 2025, 02:50:44 PM
Always trust content from The PAXiXeXemHimHerTheyThemMan

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/us-army-drones-shift-20cc5753

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