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Re: @ Mackey
« Reply #225 on: February 09, 2022, 02:10:50 PM »
So, so dumb.

One sure fire way to make sure we never get to the place we both want us to get to is to turn on coaches as soon as they turn our program around.

There have only been three tournaments played since we got Underwood.  We missed the first two during the rebuild, and got a one seed before being upset by an underserved team in the third one.  We could’ve gone deeper last year for sure but other than that single loss, have the results really been worse than you expected?

And with this post, you made the point intentionally. Yes, Loyola was a bad loss and a huge nut punch. A gigantic nut punch, but it was one game. I for one am enjoying national title relevancy two years in a row. That’s rare air for Illinois.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #226 on: February 09, 2022, 02:11:17 PM »
The fact that you think a good program has been better than us in the last decade or so is “dynamite” pretty much says it all.

We’re in better shape than Wisconsin right now.

You obviously are not as bright as you think you are.
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« Reply #227 on: February 09, 2022, 02:11:31 PM »
For a 1 seed with Ayo? Yes.

Say whatever you want Spark. But it is true. In 2005 I was at the Final Four. I bought a 6-pack of Dirt Cheep branded beer. I joked that I was not going to drink it until Illinois won the NC. Over 16 years later, 5 of the cans got holes, busted when frozen, etc. and there is only a single can left in the beer fridge. Waiting to be consumed. Yet, I may never drink that can of Dirt Cheep beer because Illini fans, and the loser AD, are happy with fucking B1G Championships and just making a 64-team tournament (like fuckling Wisconsin does every year!)  If my thirst for a NC and a 17 year old can of Dirt Cheep beer is idiotic to you, so be it. But, when you mock the Bigotry of Low Expectiations line, just remember that you want Illinois to be Wisconsin. I aspire for Illinois to be Duke.

I want Illinois to win a national title too.  Badly.

They never will if we turn on our coaches as soon as they turn our program around because they haven't won one yet.  It's crazy.

And look - I asked if the results were really below your expectations and you defaulted back to the "but the Loyola game" argument.  I wasn't asking about that.  I was asking if the results of Underwood's tenure here so far were worse than you expected.  That includes the rebuilding years and the Loyola game, as well as the year where the tournament got canceled, and this year. 

Probably safe to guess, since you completely ducked the question, that the answer is "no".

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Re: @ Mackey
« Reply #228 on: February 09, 2022, 02:12:37 PM »
You obviously are not as bright as you think you are.

Hahah, look in the mirror man.  Your flailing is sad to watch.

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« Reply #229 on: February 09, 2022, 02:13:32 PM »
And in an unintended way, you’ve literally summarized the foolishness of PAMan’s discontent. It was literally ONE tournament game. We didn’t even get a chance to compete when we had our first legit team in 10+ years.

Throw out Underwood’s first couple of years (realistically you had to give him time to eight the ship). Our first good year, the tournament is canceled. So PAMan is roasting Underwood (after very successfully turning the program around) based on one (albeit ir pretty rough) loss to a woefully underseeded Loyola team.

I would kind of consider myself the bar. If even I can admit Underwood has done an excellent job, you’d have to be an extreme nutjob not to appreciate what he’s done.

JFC with the "underseeded Loyola." It is like a mantra for you guys. Not going to get far in any tournament if you cannot beat fucking Loyola. You guys have become Merrymen.
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Re: @ Mackey
« Reply #230 on: February 09, 2022, 02:13:38 PM »
The message is that you cannot elbow our NPOY candidate in the head and expect nothing to happen in return. Instead, Illinois let Purdue walk all over them and then the HC calls the team soft.

I guess I somehow missed that…
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: @ Mackey
« Reply #231 on: February 09, 2022, 02:14:34 PM »
lol this is such a bad take

Keep cheering for B1G Championships and Reno bowling titles.  You guys have gone soft.
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« Reply #232 on: February 09, 2022, 02:15:08 PM »
JFC with the "underseeded Loyola." It is like a mantra for you guys. Not going to get far in any tournament if you cannot beat fucking Loyola. You guys have become Merrymen.

I‘ve said it many times here. It was a terrible loss. But in the end, one loss. If early exits become the NORM, your incessant crying will carry more water.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #233 on: February 09, 2022, 02:15:16 PM »
Keep cheering for B1G Championships and Reno bowling titles.  You guys have gone soft.

I'd say cheering for B1G championships and high tourney seeds is quite a bit more reasonable than shitting on them.

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Re: @ Mackey
« Reply #234 on: February 09, 2022, 02:15:51 PM »
when is the last time we’ve had Illinois talked about as a national title contender

All you want to do is talk, talk. Who cares "talking"?
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« Reply #235 on: February 09, 2022, 02:17:22 PM »
I for one am enjoying national title relevancy two years in a row.

The sad part is you are serious. When did this place become Scorat Bored? "Relevancy" and then losing to Loyola. How fucking stupid.
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« Reply #236 on: February 09, 2022, 02:17:25 PM »
If we’re a 2 seed and out the first weekend this year, I’ll give your boorish rants more credence.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #237 on: February 09, 2022, 02:17:29 PM »
Is there any doubt that if we make the second weekend or beyond this year - and we're certainly capable - that the narrative will switch to "sure he could do it with a NPOY candidate"?

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« Reply #238 on: February 09, 2022, 02:18:15 PM »
The sad part is you are serious. When did this place become Scorat Bored? "Relevancy" and then losing to Loyola. How fucking stupid.

If you didn't have fun last year college basketball might not be for you, unless you decide to become a Duke or Kentucky fan.

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« Reply #239 on: February 09, 2022, 02:18:45 PM »

And look - I asked if the results were really below your expectations and you defaulted back to the "but the Loyola game" argument.  I wasn't asking about that.  I was asking if the results of Underwood's tenure here so far were worse than you expected.  That includes the rebuilding years and the Loyola game, as well as the year where the tournament got canceled, and this year. 

I will answer the question: Yes, they are below my expectations for the Illinois program.
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