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frankiew

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2017 Coaching hires
« on: February 03, 2022, 12:46:28 PM »
5 years in let's take a look around

Brad Underwood-87 61 49-40 in big ten, 1 NCAA Tourney (would have made it year of Covid) 30-7 in last 37 big ten games

Brian Gregory-South Florida 63-79 24-52 no NCAA

Anthony Grant-Dayton 92-48 54-24 One NCAA (Covid year)

Kevin Keatts-NC ST 89-60 41-43 1 NCAA (Bubble covid year)

Lavall Jordan-Butler 80-66 38-47 1 NCAA (+1 covid year)

Patrick Ewing-Georgetown 68-72 26-52 1 NCAA

Archie Miller -Indiana 67-58 33-45 0 NCAA(Bubble Covid year) fired after 4 seasons

Chris Holtmann- 100-49 52-35 4 NCAA

Wyking Jones-Cal 16-47 5-31 let go after 2 seasons

Mike Hopkins-Washington 79-68 40-42 1 Ncaa Tourney

Will Wade-Lsu 99-46 50-29 2 NCCA (+1 for Covid year)

Cuonzo Martin-Mizzou 74-69 32-46 2 NCAA
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Re: 2017 Coaching hires
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2022, 01:13:29 PM »
Interesting. Thanks.
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Re: 2017 Coaching hires
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2022, 03:15:13 PM »
Really surprised Archie face-planted the way he did. Did not see that coming.

Had pretty high expectations for Keatts. Has been meh.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2017 Coaching hires
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2022, 05:43:22 PM »
Holtmann and Wade are clearly the best.

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Re: 2017 Coaching hires
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2022, 07:08:48 PM »
Kind of have to take into account the shape of the program they took over right?  Holtmann vs Underwood had completely different tasks
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Re: 2017 Coaching hires
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2022, 08:14:58 PM »
Wade is going to end up out taking a seat on the bench at some point pretty soon. LSU is a total joke for not dumping him now for blatant violations , but, hey, their football team pays players too.

Underwood has done a decent job. If we can get to a S16 this year he will be doing just fine.
Will be another rebuild after this year, but we should be OK and hopefully get back to tourney in 2024 with some pickups in FA/transfer market.

https://www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-wildcats/news/how-does-will-wade-still-have-a-job/
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Re: 2017 Coaching hires
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2022, 08:39:26 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on February 03, 2022, 08:14:58 PM
Wade is going to end up out taking a seat on the bench at some point pretty soon. LSU is a total joke for not dumping him now for blatant violations , but, hey, their football team pays players too.

Underwood has done a decent job. If we can get to a S16 this year he will be doing just fine.
Will be another rebuild after this year, but we should be OK and hopefully get back to tourney in 2024 with some pickups in FA/transfer market.

https://www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-wildcats/news/how-does-will-wade-still-have-a-job/

“Hopefully back to the tourney in 2024?” If Underwood misses the tourney in 2023 that will be significant failure. Particularly if Curbelo returns, which at this point seems fair.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2022, 10:01:55 PM »
WTF are you talking about?
We are going to lose all five starters.
Like 95% of the scoring and minutes.


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Re: 2017 Coaching hires
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2022, 04:20:55 AM »
Quote from: Lkdog on February 03, 2022, 10:01:55 PM
WTF are you talking about?
We are going to lose all five starters.
Like 95% of the scoring and minutes.

Where is Curbelo going? Also, “hopefully 2024?” If we miss the tourney two consecutive years we hired the wrong coach (and from the results 5 years in, I don’t think we did). There’s also the transfer portal.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2022, 04:35:57 AM »
Unless Curbelo plays like an All-American the next 8 weeks, I don’t know where he’d be going. Unless he’s desperate to get out, which isn’t anything I’ve heard, at least.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2017 Coaching hires
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2022, 05:55:46 AM »
Three starters are definitely leaving. Belo is not a starter.
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Re: 2017 Coaching hires
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2022, 07:11:08 AM »
I'll try.
Curbelo has started 4 of 7 games and played 140 minutes. He's hardly a starter right now.
Our starters, who will all be gone next year, scored 71 of our 80 points vs Wisco.
And the transfer portal works both directions. Players can leave too.
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2022, 11:43:07 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on February 03, 2022, 08:39:26 PM
“Hopefully back to the tourney in 2024?” If Underwood misses the tourney in 2023 that will be significant failure. Particularly if Curbelo returns, which at this point seems fair.

I mean we "could" make the tourney in 2023, but as far as I can see its looking like a rebuilding year
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Re: 2017 Coaching hires
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2022, 11:55:34 AM »
I am assuming that Plummer is gone. He was at a juco for 2 years at Arizona Western before his 2 years at Utah and now a year here.
Not sure how he would get another year.

Trent/Jacob/Damonte are all done.
Kofi will not be back. He will be 23 this year.

Not impossible for next year if we pull in some experienced scorers and big men.
Otherwise it is Curbelo (if he returns) and a bunch of decent looking young kids with some promise.

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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2022, 12:00:53 PM »
We'll have Dainja, Hawkins, Leib and ? as our bigs

we will miss a shitload of experience and shooting though, but if Plummer comes back that would be very helpful
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