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Re: 2022 Bears
« Reply #420 on: April 27, 2022, 04:03:44 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 03:59:00 PM
Well, I am sorry.  I didn't anticipate that reaction.  It was just me being silly and joking about the whole hot takey culture we live in.  It seems like I was taking it to a personal level, and I didn't intend to.  Again, I didn't think you would get that angry, but I can see that I wasn't cool by saying that.

Again, I apologize.  Sincerely.  I won't go there again.  Fair?

I suppose the “Stephen A hates the cops until it suits his narrative” is what triggered me the most. Thought that was unnecessary.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2022 Bears
« Reply #421 on: April 27, 2022, 04:04:22 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 27, 2022, 03:57:54 PM
I was actually a fan of the signing. I’m also not averse to making an example of a guy not likely to be an important part of a SB winning team. Sometimes there needs to be a fall guy.

Make him an example.  So show guys that if they fuck up once, they're gone.

Hmmm.  Not sure how guys would take that, especially guys that have spent a lot of time in bad neighborhoods and in the court system, but you could try that, I guess.
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Re: 2022 Bears
« Reply #422 on: April 27, 2022, 04:05:36 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 27, 2022, 04:03:44 PM
I suppose the “Stephen A hates the cops until it suits his narrative” is what triggered me the most. Thought that was unnecessary.

Ok.  Fair enough.  I don't think I was coming totally out of left field on that, but ok.

Let's squash it. 
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Re: 2022 Bears
« Reply #423 on: April 27, 2022, 04:07:53 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 03:55:43 PM
My reason for retaining him is that the Bears are really shitty in the talent department, and cutting a guy that could help for a misdemeanor seems like a bad move to me.

Is Pringle great? Probably not.  But one thing I noticed when watching Chiefs football this past year, I found myself saying "God damn, this team has a shitload of wideouts." and Pringle was one of the dudes I noticed getting the ball.

He may suck.  No doubt.  But he might be really good.  Fair?

Again, it might be Machiavellian, but I’m not averse to a new GM setting the tone and establishing a culture. And having one of his FA signees in the news for being stupid isn’t a “good look” for lack of a better way to put it. I’m not asking for a team full of Boy Scouts, I’m asking for the GM to send a message that if you’re a knucklehead, you won’t be around long. Pringle is unlikely to be a difference maker for us, especially long-term. But as I said, I initially liked the signing.
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Re: 2022 Bears
« Reply #424 on: April 27, 2022, 04:11:39 PM »
And I think that message looks even stronger if it’s a player he brought in. I want a no-nonsense GM. That’s all I want.
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« Reply #425 on: April 27, 2022, 04:19:19 PM »
So to be clear, my opinion is based primarily on wanting Poles to set a precedent and an expectation more than “punishing” Pringle. Unlucky for Pringle, but he’s expendable in my book.
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Re: 2022 Bears
« Reply #426 on: April 27, 2022, 04:23:46 PM »
Don’t like that the first year GM is sending the message that you can make him look foolish and that’s ok.
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Re: 2022 Bears
« Reply #427 on: April 27, 2022, 04:32:07 PM »
I don't think Byron Pringle made Poles look foolish at all. 

Now, I will say, if Eddie Jackson did that, yes, launch the mother fucker.  I would at least like to see what Pringle can do.

Ideally, we would all like to see super talented players on our team that also go to church, had 4.0 GPAs, and have zero criminal activity in their background.  But that's not the NFL.

I'm not going to change your mind, and you're not going to change mine.  You want Pringle gone.  I don't.  That's it.
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Re: 2022 Bears
« Reply #428 on: April 27, 2022, 04:39:26 PM »
Again, it’s not that I want “Pringle gone.” I want Poles to send the message he doesn’t fuck around. I want some fear struck into the heart of the team. I’m fine with launching another teams’ reject if it means getting the teams’ attention.
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Re: 2022 Bears
« Reply #429 on: April 27, 2022, 04:45:19 PM »
Fear struck into the heart of the team.  Jeez.

I want players that can play.  Preferably that don't commit felonies.  If a guy does something stupid with a car, chew his ass out, and tell him to quit being a moron.  If it happens again, launch him.

Cut a dude for fucking up once, under your watch? You look like a fucking asshole.  NFL players, I'm guessing, don't want to play for a fucking asshole.

Again, I get establishing a culture.  I'm all for running things with decent citizens.  But cutting a dude and swinging the pendulum too far could be counter productive.

Poles may have made a mistake here.  But he may not have.  I don't know, and neither do you.  Can you at least allow for that?
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Re: 2022 Bears
« Reply #430 on: April 27, 2022, 05:14:39 PM »
I have an opinion, you have an opinion; and I’m fine with leaving it at that. But yeah, sure, could be a nothingburger. Probably will.
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« Reply #431 on: April 27, 2022, 05:22:20 PM »
Ok. Cool.
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Re: 2022 Bears
« Reply #432 on: April 27, 2022, 05:36:05 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 27, 2022, 04:39:26 PM
Again, it’s not that I want “Pringle gone.” I want Poles to send the message he doesn’t fuck around. I want some fear struck into the heart of the team. I’m fine with launching another teams’ reject if it means getting the teams’ attention.

Maybe he can give him a nice yelling at
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Re: 2022 Bears
« Reply #433 on: April 27, 2022, 05:41:42 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on April 27, 2022, 05:36:05 PM
Maybe he can give him a nice yelling at

Well Poles is black, so he can get away with that type of behavior in Tempo’s eyes. Underwood… nah.
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Re: 2022 Bears
« Reply #434 on: April 27, 2022, 05:54:59 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on April 27, 2022, 05:41:42 PM
Well Poles is black, so he can get away with that type of behavior in Tempo’s eyes. Underwood… nah.

Speaking of idiots…
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