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Re: halftime celebration saturday
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2021, 07:50:05 PM »
Quote from: dwc13 on December 17, 2021, 07:29:21 PM
Indiana beat North Carolina in the 1984 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament. Bob Knight was a much better coach than Dean Smith.

Okay.

Because Indiana was good?

I mean, the mid-1980s is prolly gonna be the golden age of NCAA basketball when it's all said and done. Jordan didn't make the varsity team as a sophomore right? Projecting 1992 Jordan on 1984 Jordan is silly. Steve Alford and Uwe Blab were pretty fucking effective within that offensive structure. Stew Robinson shot 54% from the floor that year.

I'm sure Dean Smith didn't adapt to the evolving game as well as others did, and I'm sure that Bob Knight was responsible for that evolution (fuck him for that, because basketball as soccer is a shitload less fun), but to suggest that any team of that era was dominant is just stupid.

Houston was dominant. They got beat by NC State. Georgetown was dominant. They got beat by Rollie Massimino.

Fucking St. John's was dominant.
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Re: halftime celebration saturday
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2021, 07:59:54 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on December 17, 2021, 02:05:30 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2021/04/02/bill-self-kansas-jayhawks-agree-lifetime-contract/4852229001/

According to USA today, 5.41 million.  Article written April 2nd 2021.

Still seems relatively cheap in today’s climate.
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Re: halftime celebration saturday
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2021, 12:28:49 AM »
Quote from: Dominic on December 17, 2021, 07:35:47 PM
I remember him from the football team (had a TD ruled incomplete vs #1 Ohio State) but I have no recollection of him playing basketball.

On a team as stacked as that I’m surprised they’d even need him as a practice body.  Wasn’t Arch, Damir, Lucas enough?
Damir and Lucas both had injuries in 01-02. 01-02. Powell was a freshman and otherwise they were thin at forward with respect to practice depth. 
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Re: halftime celebration saturday
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2021, 05:28:31 AM »
Quote from: fucking on December 17, 2021, 07:50:05 PM
Okay.

Because Indiana was good?

I mean, the mid-1980s is prolly gonna be the golden age of NCAA basketball when it's all said and done. Jordan didn't make the varsity team as a sophomore right? Projecting 1992 Jordan on 1984 Jordan is silly. Steve Alford and Uwe Blab were pretty fucking effective within that offensive structure. Stew Robinson shot 54% from the floor that year.

I'm sure Dean Smith didn't adapt to the evolving game as well as others did, and I'm sure that Bob Knight was responsible for that evolution (fuck him for that, because basketball as soccer is a shitload less fun), but to suggest that any team of that era was dominant is just stupid.

Houston was dominant. They got beat by NC State. Georgetown was dominant. They got beat by Rollie Massimino.

Fucking St. John's was dominant.

There is no projection on my part. Jordan was already considered to be a top 3 pick heading into the NCAA Tournament. The question was whether he was going to be picked at #2 or #3. Olajuwon was the consensus #1 pick. Portland picked Sam Bowie #2 because the Trailblazers already had Clyde Drexler (and the team had a knack for drafting oft-injured big men). Fellow Tar Heel Sam Perkins was considered top 10 pick and was drafted #4, one spot after Jordan. Talent-wise, that Indiana team wasn't even in the same galaxy (figuratively speaking) as North Carolina. Uwe Blab and Steve Alford? Please. Why don't you bring up Dan Dakich while you're at it. Dean Smith managed to do what no opposing coach should have been able to accomplish -- prevent a roster full of (future) NBA talent from winning the NCAA Championship that season. 
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Re: halftime celebration saturday
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2021, 07:52:17 AM »
You know who else played in the NBA?

Luther Head
Dee Brown
Deron Williams
James Augustine
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Roger Powell
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Re: halftime celebration saturday
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2021, 08:06:01 AM »
Quote from: sharethejuice on December 17, 2021, 08:11:22 AM
for 01-02 big ten champs

autographs after the game

expected to attend
Cory Bradford – Illinois' No. 6 all-time leading scorer and career leading 3-point shooter … 2001 All-Big Ten honorable mention … 2002 Team Captain
Frank Williams – Illinois Honored Jersey … 2001 Big Ten Player of the Year and All-American … 2001 and 2002 first-team All-Big Ten … 2001 and 2002 Team MVP
Brian Cook – Illinois Honored Jersey … 2001 and 2002 second-team All-Big Ten
Sergio McClain – 2001 Team Captain
Marcus Griffin – 2001 Team Captain
Lucas Johnson
Damir Krupalija
Sean Harrington
Nate Mast
Joe Cross
Brett Melton
Walter Young


I wish I could be there but I have a family Christmas to go. That 2000-2001 team should have won it all. A more experienced Self as coach and they would have won it all.

That team was so deep, but college basketball was so deep at that time too.

Look at the Zona team that year

Richard Jefferson, Loren Woods, Luke Walton, Gilbert Arenas,Michael Wright, Jason Gardner

We never should have been in same bracket as Arizona though. I say Iowa St or UNC, but whatever

ANyone going?

I felt like Arizona had far more skilled basketball talent so I’m not surprised they won. They had better players.

Is Nick Smith the only guy from that team not going to be there? Other than Powell who has a job, and the late Arch?  It always seemed to me Nick Smith hated basketball and didn’t want anything to do with it when he was done.  Shame he never embraced tallest Illini in history bc he was popular
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Re: halftime celebration saturday
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2021, 08:13:04 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 17, 2021, 01:27:12 PM
I’ve said it before, and I still believe it. Self would have won more national titles if he’d stayed at Illinois.

No way.  At best he’d have positioned Illinois in a similar way as Michigan State under Izzo but they’ve only won 1.

Self at Illinois was never going to turn them into a blue blood.
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Re: halftime celebration saturday
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2021, 09:36:50 AM »
Who knows? The 05 team would have had Charlie Villanueva on it had Self stayed. Guys like Julian Wright and Sherron Collins would have been the successors to the 05 team rather than Charles Jackson and Trent Frazier.
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Re: halftime celebration saturday
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2021, 09:41:34 AM »
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Quote from: Custard on December 18, 2021, 09:36:50 AM
Who knows? The 05 team would have had Charlie Villanueva on it had Self stayed. Guys like Julian Wright and Sherron Collins would have been the successors to the 05 team rather than Charles Jackson and Trent Frazier.

Chester, right?
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Re: halftime celebration saturday
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2021, 09:54:09 AM »
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Re: halftime celebration saturday
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2021, 09:58:31 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on December 18, 2021, 09:54:09 AM
Chester Meachum

That’s exactly what happened.

I woke up at 5 am with a stiff neck and couldn’t fall back asleep. Took some ibuprofen and fell back asleep at 8 after everyone had breakfast. Woke up right before I posted that travesty.
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Re: halftime celebration saturday
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2021, 10:10:58 AM »
Someone I know on Facebook was giving away traditions club tickets for today. Must have had something come up.

I was 5 minutes away from scoring them. He had just given them away. Damn.
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Re: halftime celebration saturday
« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2021, 11:43:36 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 17, 2021, 01:27:12 PM
I’ve said it before, and I still believe it. Self would have won more national titles if he’d stayed at Illinois.
  the downfall of illinois buckets after Self left.  Definitely would be a blue blood with probably a couple national championships. 
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« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2021, 12:46:52 PM »
Quote from: dwc13 on December 18, 2021, 05:28:31 AM
There is no projection on my part. Jordan was already considered to be a top 3 pick heading into the NCAA Tournament. The question was whether he was going to be picked at #2 or #3. Olajuwon was the consensus #1 pick. Portland picked Sam Bowie #2 because the Trailblazers already had Clyde Drexler (and the team had a knack for drafting oft-injured big men). Fellow Tar Heel Sam Perkins was considered top 10 pick and was drafted #4, one spot after Jordan. Talent-wise, that Indiana team wasn't even in the same galaxy (figuratively speaking) as North Carolina. Uwe Blab and Steve Alford? Please. Why don't you bring up Dan Dakich while you're at it. Dean Smith managed to do what no opposing coach should have been able to accomplish -- prevent a roster full of (future) NBA talent from winning the NCAA Championship that season.
This happens with some regularity that a stocked team loses to slightly less stocked teams. It's not like they lost to high schoolers. The *7 seed* in their bracket that went to the Final Four had 4 guys who played in the league and multiple ACs who later established themselves as good head coaches.
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Re: halftime celebration saturday
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2021, 12:54:32 PM »
2 minutes for Hawkins. Is he in the dog house ?
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