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Bret Bielema is Trash

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Re: Bret Bielema is Trash
« Reply #45 on: October 19, 2021, 06:02:16 PM »
I’m not sure I’ve ever heard a coach flat out say he’s losing because his players aren’t up to snuff.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Bret Bielema is Trash
« Reply #46 on: October 19, 2021, 06:04:18 PM »
Quote from: Custard on October 19, 2021, 06:00:43 PM
FFS he didn’t compare himself to a great jockey riding a bad horse. He said, “No one bets on the jockey, they bet on the horse, right? And to win the Derby you need the right horse.” Seems like a fairly apt analogy.

Is Alabama a dynasty because of Xs and Os or getting the best athletes year in and year out in? Wayner loves to talk about the correlation between recruiting highly ranked players in basketball with teams that win at a high level. But apparently our football coach points out that exact same correlation, he’s trash.

His comment about the O Line was specifically regarding the two deep having almost no contribution to the line which is a major problem. It’s objectively true.

He isn’t singling out the guys that are playing, he’s saying that after these guys are gone there is basically no production/experience to take their place because of poor roster construction by previous staff.

He then goes on to acknowledge that it has to be addressed and takes accountability for doing so. It’s one of those takes where I listen to it the first time and I’m kinda like  but then when I go back to it, it’s clear what his intent was and it wasn’t throwing anyone under the bus.

Again, he’s flat out saying his teams sucks but it’s not his fault they are losing. I’m not sure I’ve ever heard a coach say this so directly. Certainly not something I envision a real leader doing. And at a minimum, someone with class.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Bret Bielema is Trash
« Reply #47 on: October 19, 2021, 06:07:51 PM »
"Anyone trying to drag his name please stop. One of the most genuine people I’ve ever met. 1st conversation we had, had nothing to do with football, but about being a father. Something that will forever stick with me."

- Tailon Leitzsey
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Re: Bret Bielema is Trash
« Reply #48 on: October 19, 2021, 06:08:17 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on October 19, 2021, 05:22:59 PM
According to you, it’s apparently unmanly to call out the coach for lacking class “on a sports message board.” I can only assume you think the proper thing to do is drive down to Champaign, and call him out to his face.

No I didn’t mean it’s unmanly calling someone else trash on a sports message board. I meant calling someone trash based off what someone heard on Twitter OR a sports message board.
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Re: Bret Bielema is Trash
« Reply #49 on: October 19, 2021, 06:10:21 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on October 19, 2021, 06:05:11 PM
Bruce Weber says hello

That’s a reasonable take. But even then, I don’t recall Weber ever completely saying “I can’t win with this group.” He’d at least couch it with “all I can do is try to coach them, they have to do it themselves.”

Regardless, being protective of the asshat redneck of a coach (especially when they are new) is something I have seen over, and over, and over here.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Bret Bielema is Trash
« Reply #50 on: October 19, 2021, 06:11:22 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on October 19, 2021, 06:08:17 PM
No I didn’t mean it’s unmanly calling someone else trash on a sports message board. I meant calling someone trash based off what someone heard on Twitter OR a sports message board.

It was a fucking video of the coach speaking you moron.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Bret Bielema is Trash
« Reply #51 on: October 19, 2021, 06:12:14 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on October 19, 2021, 06:03:28 PM
If Shaka Smart or Reggie Theus or Lorenzo Romar would have taken the exact same approach, you would have been fine with it, Wayne.

Just stop with the bullshit. You’ve already shown your ass. Lol.

All black coaches you racist!! 😂
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Re: Bret Bielema is Trash
« Reply #52 on: October 19, 2021, 06:13:32 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on October 19, 2021, 06:11:22 PM
It was a fucking video of the coach speaking you moron.

And apparently you didn’t watch the whole fucking thing moron or you clearly would’ve saw the context.

Hence see Custard’s post above you replied to. It’s fucking poetry!
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Re: Bret Bielema is Trash
« Reply #53 on: October 19, 2021, 06:15:40 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on October 19, 2021, 06:03:28 PM
If Shaka Smart or Reggie Theus or Lorenzo Romar would have taken the exact same approach, you would have been fine with it, Wayne.

Just stop with the bullshit. You’ve already shown your ass. Lol.

Shut up, troll. You’re not interesting.
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Re: Bret Bielema is Trash
« Reply #54 on: October 19, 2021, 06:16:07 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on October 19, 2021, 06:03:28 PM
...Shaka Smart or Reggie Theus or Lorenzo Romar...

If you had included Craig Robinson I would have won in bingo.
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Re: Bret Bielema is Trash
« Reply #55 on: October 19, 2021, 06:18:01 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on October 19, 2021, 06:05:11 PM
Bruce Weber says hello

Not sure this reference helps your position.
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Re: Bret Bielema is Trash
« Reply #56 on: October 19, 2021, 06:40:19 PM »
Nothing’s worse than a troll that sucks at trolling.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Bret Bielema is Trash
« Reply #57 on: October 19, 2021, 07:09:59 PM »
I’ve watched this like 6 times now and it’s less offensive each time I watch it.

He starts off talking about the importance of a talented roster. He transitions to talking about the holes in the roster that became apparent after he invited all the super seniors back and had some time under his belt with them.

He then harps on the lack of experience and personnel in key areas that they need to overcome in order to succeed in what is very obviously a multi-year rebuild.

He goes on to talk about needing bigger bodies upfront for his style of play compared to what the previous staff was recruiting for their SOP. (Whatever that may have been)

The piece about the O Line can be construed as throwing the current starting O Line under the bus, but when you watch it again he’s clearly talking about something entirely different.

We all know Tempo blames everything on the staff and the guys that aren’t playing are going to be heroes, but the cupboard is awfully bare. And if we think we’re bad this year just wait until next year, unless they make hay in the Juco and transfer market.

I was a little put off by it at first but it was just a very frank evaluation of the current roster construction. And Bielema setting the expectation that they have recognized those shortcomings and intend to shore them up as best they can.

Probably could have worded it a little differently for the more sensitive among the fan base.
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Re: Bret Bielema is Trash
« Reply #58 on: October 19, 2021, 07:19:50 PM »
I wouldn't call him a redneck, either. I'd call Judy a redneck.
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Re: Bret Bielema is Trash
« Reply #59 on: October 19, 2021, 07:24:56 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on October 19, 2021, 07:23:05 PM
And Judy is probably fine with it.

He's a big fan of Deliverance.
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