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Happy St Patrick's Day

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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2025, 08:10:42 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on March 17, 2025, 06:56:40 AM
Slainte to the Irish, the non-Irish and those who have no idea. 🍻🍻

And from 5 years ago today, a "correspondence" in Nature Medicine.
And a Sunday post from Shellenberger.




"But Lord Vallance, the science minister who was the Government's chief scientific adviser at the time, is accused of ignoring the report, possibly for fear of offending the Chinese or jeopardising research funding."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14503159/Labour-Wuhan-lab-leak-pandemic-Boris-johnson.html

Pretty big victory lap here, MN. I’m sure there are or will be rebuttals to this, but if this holds, several here owe you an apology.

I seem to recall making a few posts, one just the other day, about the danger of science evangelism and the role money and politics play in ensuring preferred scientific outcomes.

The oddly insistent nature of the pushback against the lab leak theory, as well as the people doing the pushing, always felt like a smoking gun to me. To be fair, in probably the same way Trump insisting it came from the lab felt like a smoking gun in the other direction for the TDS crowd.
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day
« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2025, 10:09:16 AM »
I think it is naturally out there but escaped from the Commie Lab, but there still seems to be some dispute within the US government it appears.
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day
« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2025, 10:32:23 AM »
Stumbled across this today, interesting reading it years later knowing more about what was going on.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/15/wuhan-lab-trump-officials-covid-494700
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day
« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2025, 11:33:17 AM »
We know for sure that intelligence agency assessments are always flawlessly accurate. Their findings are never influenced in the least by politics.

Also, the Daily Mail is a highly respected source, well known for credible, factual, unbiased reporting.
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day
« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2025, 11:44:09 AM »
So far today Nichi has defended Venezuelan gang members and the Commie Chinese.

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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day
« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2025, 11:54:55 AM »
Nichi can defend this terrorist supporter next...

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/17/rasha-alawieh-deportation-026038

Rasha Alawieh, a physician specializing in kidney transplants and professor at Brown University, also told Customs and Border Protection agents that while visiting Lebanon last month she attended the funeral of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah and followed his teachings “from a religious perspective” but not a political one, according to an official report on her interrogation by an immigration officer.
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day
« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2025, 12:09:03 PM »
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day
« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2025, 12:12:23 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on March 17, 2025, 06:56:40 AM
Slainte to the Irish, the non-Irish and those who have no idea. 🍻🍻

And from 5 years ago today, a "correspondence" in Nature Medicine.
And a Sunday post from Shellenberger.




"But Lord Vallance, the science minister who was the Government's chief scientific adviser at the time, is accused of ignoring the report, possibly for fear of offending the Chinese or jeopardising research funding."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14503159/Labour-Wuhan-lab-leak-pandemic-Boris-johnson.html

Too bad for us that we had an aging ineffective President Biden in 2020, or this would have been dealt with
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day
« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2025, 12:35:12 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 17, 2025, 11:44:09 AM
So far today Nichi has defended Venezuelan gang members and the Commie Chinese.



Ha ha!
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day
« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2025, 01:09:28 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on March 17, 2025, 11:33:17 AM

Also, the Daily Mail is a highly respected source, well known for credible, factual, unbiased reporting.
Is the concern regarding the source ? Or this Patrick Vallance ?


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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day
« Reply #40 on: March 17, 2025, 01:57:41 PM »
Patrick Vallance

From 1986 to 1995, Vallance taught at St George's Hospital Medical School, where his research concentrated on vascular biology and endothelial cell physiology. In 1995, he was appointed a professor at UCL Medical School, and in 2002 he became head of UCL's department of medicine. From 2012 to 2018, he was president of Research and Development (R&D) at the global pharmaceutical company GlaxoSmithKline (GSK).[4] He served as chairman of the Natural History Museum's board of trustees between 2022 and 2024.[5][6]

In March 2020, as HM Government's Chief Scientific Adviser, Vallance appeared alongside Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Chris Whitty, Chief Medical Officer for England, in televised briefings on the COVID-19 pandemic.[7][8] He was appointed a Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath (KCB) in the 2022 New Year Honours for "services to public health". In July 2024, Vallance was appointed Minister of State for Science, Research and Innovation by Prime Minister Keir Starmer following the Labour Party's victory at the 2024 general election.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Vallance

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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day
« Reply #41 on: March 17, 2025, 03:10:04 PM »
tl/dr

It may be just a coincidence that the UK's chief scientific advisor was on 1 of the very 1st calls made, with fellow Brit Farrar and 4 of the Proximal Origin authors but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't.
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day
« Reply #42 on: March 17, 2025, 04:10:27 PM »
Short version: daily mail is a fake news site
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day
« Reply #43 on: March 17, 2025, 08:34:28 PM »
Get drunk and quit acting like faggots arguing about politics on this blessed day of love
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