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Re: Bears/Rams
« Reply #120 on: September 14, 2021, 09:45:27 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 14, 2021, 08:17:34 PM
Your point is “no one wins without good players.” What a fucking brilliant point. A totally useless comment we’ve spent way too much time debating.

My point is that it's stupid to try to separate a coach's results from its roster, as if a 'bad roster' or 'good roster' affects the evaluation of the coach, rather than wins and losses.  I've stated it clearly many many times.
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« Reply #121 on: September 14, 2021, 09:49:22 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on September 14, 2021, 09:45:27 PM
My point is that it's stupid to try to separate a coach's results from its roster, as if a 'bad roster' or 'good roster' affects the evaluation of the coach, rather than wins and losses.  I've stated it clearly many many times.

It’s not hard when it’s a one-off like Nagy. It’s totally doable. I mean, the Beatles had a lot of hits, but didn’t the Bay City Rollers really crush it for a short while?
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« Reply #122 on: September 14, 2021, 09:53:39 PM »
You’re basically making the argument that only wins and losses matter, even in a very short window. For a couple of years, Mike Ditka was on Belichick’s level as a coach, amirite?
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« Reply #123 on: September 14, 2021, 10:00:31 PM »
I remember when Chip Kelly was a great NFL coach.
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« Reply #124 on: September 14, 2021, 10:09:01 PM »
The notion that it’s impossible to separate a coach from his win/loss record (in a short window) is preposterous. We all saw that Mike Ditka (among others) wasn’t that great of a coach once he no longer had overwhelming talent.

Now if a guy like Belichick or Bill Cowher has a long record of winning, of course. You can’t separate them
from their records.
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Re: Bears/Rams
« Reply #125 on: September 14, 2021, 10:33:41 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on September 14, 2021, 06:34:56 PM
the Jobu meltdown on the side is pretty funny too

The cherry on top, if you will.
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« Reply #126 on: September 14, 2021, 10:37:18 PM »
Who remembers when Barry Switzer was a great NFL coach?
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« Reply #127 on: September 14, 2021, 10:43:19 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on September 14, 2021, 08:32:30 PM
I’m not letting this shit go. If PA man can bring it up constantly, by fucking god I can too

It has been enjoyable.
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« Reply #128 on: September 14, 2021, 11:07:13 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on September 14, 2021, 10:43:19 PM
It has been enjoyable.

He’s right though; regarding the Mack trade, I was AOTC.
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« Reply #129 on: September 14, 2021, 11:54:37 PM »
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I remember when Chip Kelly was a great NFL coach.

college coach?
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« Reply #130 on: September 15, 2021, 12:00:34 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on September 14, 2021, 11:54:37 PM
college coach?

Nah man, he made the playoffs his first year in Philly (but got bounced first round though). Which means he was a terrific NFL coach. It was kinda reminiscent of Belichick. For like a year or so.
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« Reply #131 on: September 15, 2021, 12:02:34 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 15, 2021, 12:00:34 AM
Nah man, he made the playoffs his first year in Philly (but got bounced first round though). Which means he was a terrific NFL coach. It was kinda reminiscent of Belichick. For like a year or so.

oh I had totally forgot about that lol

was that during the Marc Trestman era of NFL football that I was so engaged with?
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« Reply #132 on: September 15, 2021, 09:02:46 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 15, 2021, 12:00:34 AM
Nah man, he made the playoffs his first year in Philly (but got bounced first round though). Which means he was a terrific NFL coach. It was kinda reminiscent of Belichick. For like a year or so.

Why would anyone continue discussing this when you when you talk past them, misrepresent (or, I suppose, misunderstand) what they're saying, etc.?  You're not capable of discussing this in good faith.

If it's about demanding your 'credit' for being 'AOTC', then sure - have it.  Congrats, you were ahead of the curve as usual.
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« Reply #133 on: September 15, 2021, 09:09:36 AM »
I think I’ve made it pretty clear that mediocre or worse coaches sometimes have good seasons, so yes, you CAN separate a coach from
his record. In a short window. If a coach has a consistent record of winning, yes, that would be a case where it’s stupid to separate him from his record. If Barry Switzer can win a Super Bowl, bad coaches can have a good year or two.
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« Reply #134 on: September 15, 2021, 09:11:19 AM »
Ditka had a great 4-5 year run, but once he no longer had overwhelming talent; he was exposed.
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