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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #195 on: October 01, 2021, 01:19:10 PM »
What’s to remember? Basically Spark feels there’s no such thing as an “expert.” Which it seems makes his opinion as valid as anyone else’s. It seems Belichick was the only one to (barely) clear that hurdle for him. Then a couple years later, Belichick wasn’t an expert, but merely the beneficiary of Tom Brady.

This is exactly what I've forgotten. Though I expect Spark to chime in that you are misrepresenting his statements.
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #196 on: October 01, 2021, 01:20:44 PM »
Friday afternoon. Still no announcement on a starter…

does it really matter?
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #197 on: October 01, 2021, 01:27:26 PM »
This is exactly what I've forgotten. Though I expect Spark to chime in that you are misrepresenting his statements.

Of course, no one expert is always right. But I’ve always suspected he shuns expert opinions because it validates anyone’s opinion. Like his. And allows him to present “unbiased” statistics that show Mitchell Trubiksy is on par with Patrick Mahomes (in a then 5 game sample size with an obvious Tampa Bay outlier).
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #198 on: October 01, 2021, 01:29:48 PM »
does it really matter?

“Matter?” Perhaps not. But it shows how spineless he is.
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« Reply #199 on: October 01, 2021, 01:30:59 PM »
This is exactly what I've forgotten. Though I expect Spark to chime in that you are misrepresenting his statements.

There’s nothing to misrepresent. When I asked him who he thought was “an expert on football,” he grudgingly offered Bill Belichick, and that was it.
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« Reply #200 on: October 01, 2021, 01:37:37 PM »
“Matter?” Perhaps not. But it shows how spineless he is.

he's keeping the opposition on their toes!

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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #201 on: October 01, 2021, 01:46:16 PM »
Breaking: Matt Nagy names himself starting QB against Detroit. Says plays will run better if called from the huddle.
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« Reply #202 on: October 01, 2021, 01:52:00 PM »
Adam Hoge just tweeted that Matt Nagy said the starting QB will be a “game time decision.” Lol
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« Reply #203 on: October 01, 2021, 02:55:12 PM »
Adam Hoge just tweeted that Matt Nagy said the starting QB will be a “game time decision.” Lol

determined by the coin toss  ;D
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #204 on: October 01, 2021, 03:19:24 PM »
Who is calling the plays? “Can’t say.”

Who is the starting quarterback? “Can’t say.”

Really oozing leadership and confidence here.
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #205 on: October 01, 2021, 03:26:08 PM »
I am not a cheer for my team to lose guy. I will still watch them and get pissed off though. Fucking Bears and Illini. Fucking fuckers.

Me either.  I understand being one, but that doesn't mean it's any fun when that happens.

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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #206 on: October 01, 2021, 03:27:44 PM »
What’s to remember? Basically Spark feels there’s no such thing as an “expert.” Which it seems makes his opinion as valid as anyone else’s. It seems Belichick was the only one to (barely) clear that hurdle for him. Then a couple years later, Belichick wasn’t an expert, but merely the beneficiary of Tom Brady.

Is that what you think the discussion about experts was about?  Making my opinion seem 'as valid as anyone else's'?

The last thing is just made up, no idea where you got that unless you - intentionally or otherwise - are just trying to misrepresent my point to win an internet argument.

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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #207 on: October 01, 2021, 03:30:00 PM »
This is exactly what I've forgotten. Though I expect Spark to chime in that you are misrepresenting his statements.

He's right that I question the notion of 'football experts', i.e. checkmarked dudes on Twitter or dudes who talk on ESPN.  I don't think those guys have any particular deep knowledge, and I think that's pretty much borne out by the evidence.  That's true of most sports too; Shaq is an all time great NBA player, played in the league for decades, and has spent the last however many years talking NBA on TV every night but he still says ridiculous things constantly.  You could argue his experience makes him 'an expert', or you could actually look at the things he says and recognize that he doesn't have some deep understanding of the game that many others without his resume also have.

You're absolutely correct that he is misrepresenting what I've said about Belichick though; I've never said he 'isn't an expert, but merely the beneficiary of Tom Brady' or really anything even remotely close to that.  That's an extrapolation of my question regarding Belichick's record without Brady, which of course Tempo doesn't want to talk about because it kind of sheds some light on how dumb some of the things he says are.

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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #208 on: October 01, 2021, 03:40:19 PM »
He's right that I question the notion of 'football experts', i.e. checkmarked dudes on Twitter or dudes who talk on ESPN.  I don't think those guys have any particular deep knowledge, and I think that's pretty much borne out by the evidence.  That's true of most sports too; Shaq is an all time great NBA player, played in the league for decades, and has spent the last however many years talking NBA on TV every night but he still says ridiculous things constantly.  You could argue his experience makes him 'an expert', or you could actually look at the things he says and recognize that he doesn't have some deep understanding of the game that many others without his resume also have.

You're absolutely correct that he is misrepresenting what I've said about Belichick though; I've never said he 'isn't an expert, but merely the beneficiary of Tom Brady' or really anything even remotely close to that.  That's an extrapolation of my question regarding Belichick's record without Brady, which of course Tempo doesn't want to talk about because it kind of sheds some light on how dumb some of the things he says are.

Oddly enough, Lombardi was railing against ESPN's coverage of the NFL and, apparently, Ostrovsky's, or whatever his name is, calling for Fields to demand a trade that Tempo appears to have posted, in his podcast.

Yeah, makes you wonder about Belichick since the record is not great without Brady. Yet, obviously, he did come up with some great defensive game plans to win Super Bowls. He has also blown a couple though, like that Giants game, and was gifted a couple due to the other team's sheer incompetence (Seahawks, Falcons).

I'm on Team Spark on this one.
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #209 on: October 01, 2021, 03:46:30 PM »
Oddly enough, Lombardi was railing against ESPN's coverage of the NFL and, apparently, Ostrovsky's, or whatever his name is, calling for Fields to demand a trade that Tempo appears to have posted, in his podcast.

Yeah, makes you wonder about Belichick since the record is not great without Brady. Yet, obviously, he did come up with some great defensive game plans to win Super Bowls. He has also blown a couple though, like that Giants game, and was gifted a couple due to the other team's sheer incompetence (Seahawks, Falcons).

I'm on Team Spark on this one.

I honestly don't question Belichick at all.  You're as good as your record, and his is VERY good.

My entire point in bringing him up was pointing out how silly it is to say "yeah but look at his roster".  I don't care how good someone's roster is; if they win, that's their result.  If they don't, that's theirs too - and no matter how good or bad your roster is, NFL coaches don't survive losing for too long typically.

Some of the all-time great NFL coaches were before my time so I can't speak to them OTHER THAN their record, but in my lifetime at least Belichick is easily the best coach.
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