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Let's talk about something we all can agree on...

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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #4065 on: September 17, 2026, 07:06:53 AM »
Waiting for Mn to appreciate Tempo's love of the Trump Economy creating more millionaires in NY State....
I did notice the bar graph in the cbs link that showed median household income, the group that Tempo would be in, increased from 2022 to 2023 also. But he's concerned about the millionaires.

And 2022 wasn't a good year so hopefully income would rebound. Good job, Joe.
And both Trump terms show an increase in median household income.

Still hiding behind innuendo and practicing the art of omission.

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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #4066 on: Today at 12:44:28 PM »
Janan Ganesh with a good analysis


Whether in the United States, Germany, France, Australia, the United Kingdom, Italy, or elsewhere, nearly every single leader has been remarkably unpopular

It doesn’t matter if the leaders are conservative or liberal, young or old, successful or terrible. Their unpopularity is durable

As such, nearly every election is a change election

What the west has is a followership problem. Voters reject policies — however objectively necessary — that cost them anything. One result is huge levels of government debt, which investors are now demanding higher yields to finance. Another is the flaying alive of almost any leader who tries to fix this or almost anything else. In this decade alone, policies from which heads of government never really recovered include, in France, an increase in the state pension age to all of 64 and, in Britain, a cut to winter fuel subsidies amounting to £1.4bn annually. It isn’t a Greece-style adjustment that people are rebelling against, but modest and apologetic savings.
 
The quickest, surest way to save Merz’s chancellorship is to give up the reforms to healthcare, pensions and the like. It would also be unconscionable. Likewise, Andy Burnham’s best chance of winning the next UK election is to attempt no fiscal tightening, which would be negligent of him. These are so often the choices: self-immolation or dereliction. The idea of a third path, in which leaders pursue reform but explain it better — “bring people on board” — is podcast-level hogwash. Outside of crises, when fear makes them pliable, voters are determinedly off board.

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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #4067 on: Today at 12:52:43 PM »
Janan Ganesh with a good analysis


Whether in the United States, Germany, France, Australia, the United Kingdom, Italy, or elsewhere, nearly every single leader has been remarkably unpopular

It doesn’t matter if the leaders are conservative or liberal, young or old, successful or terrible. Their unpopularity is durable

As such, nearly every election is a change election

What the west has is a followership problem. Voters reject policies — however objectively necessary — that cost them anything. One result is huge levels of government debt, which investors are now demanding higher yields to finance. Another is the flaying alive of almost any leader who tries to fix this or almost anything else. In this decade alone, policies from which heads of government never really recovered include, in France, an increase in the state pension age to all of 64 and, in Britain, a cut to winter fuel subsidies amounting to £1.4bn annually. It isn’t a Greece-style adjustment that people are rebelling against, but modest and apologetic savings.
 
The quickest, surest way to save Merz’s chancellorship is to give up the reforms to healthcare, pensions and the like. It would also be unconscionable. Likewise, Andy Burnham’s best chance of winning the next UK election is to attempt no fiscal tightening, which would be negligent of him. These are so often the choices: self-immolation or dereliction. The idea of a third path, in which leaders pursue reform but explain it better — “bring people on board” — is podcast-level hogwash. Outside of crises, when fear makes them pliable, voters are determinedly off board.

The only thing these days more unpopular than Democrats in 2024 is Republicans in 2026. Yet all the numbers I see the Dems actually running for office are polling behind the "generic Democrat" poll numbers.

We will get a Blue Wave, then the idiots will spend their time focusing on investigating Trump (to appease the Tempo's of the world) instead of focusing on shit that matters to actual people, and then will get steamrolled again in 2028. Wash, rinse, repeat.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #4068 on: Today at 01:10:13 PM »
The only thing these days more unpopular than Democrats in 2024 is Republicans in 2026. Yet all the numbers I see the Dems actually running for office are polling behind the "generic Democrat" poll numbers.

We will get a Blue Wave, then the idiots will spend their time focusing on investigating Trump (to appease the Tempo's of the world) instead of focusing on shit that matters to actual people, and then will get steamrolled again in 2028. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Even if they are super focused, the deficit is already 40T, interest rates aren't coming down, and the fixes will be super fucking painful. Either they do nothing because they can't get a tax hike or spending cuts passed, or they raise taxes, end the war, cut spending - and people will be pissed about a tax hike, JD Vance will blame their woes on the Democrats, win, and then when he fixes jack shit, the Dems take the next midterm.

It's not about random people getting free shit or small pieces of fraud. Like saying someone is profligate because they are drinking a starbucks but excusing their brand new Ford F150

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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #4069 on: Today at 01:16:39 PM »
Even if they are super focused, the deficit is already 40T, interest rates aren't coming down, and the fixes will be super fucking painful. Either they do nothing because they can't get a tax hike or spending cuts passed, or they raise taxes, end the war, cut spending - and people will be pissed about a tax hike, JD Vance will blame their woes on the Democrats, win, and then when he fixes jack shit, the Dems take the next midterm.

It's not about random people getting free shit or small pieces of fraud. Like saying someone is profligate because they are drinking a starbucks but excusing their brand new Ford F150

They can adjust tax rates on the super rich instead of states feeding off of each other in a race to the bottom as we have now, as your guy Newsom has explained previously. I have not heard of him discussing it lately tho.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #4070 on: Today at 02:08:11 PM »
They can adjust tax rates on the super rich instead of states feeding off of each other in a race to the bottom as we have now, as your guy Newsom has explained previously. I have not heard of him discussing it lately tho.

Trump gonna sign that bill? If the Democrats take the Senate, eliminate the filibuster to pass it just to get it to Trump's desk?