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Let's talk about something we all can agree on...

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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #3735 on: June 28, 2026, 09:46:42 AM »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3736 on: June 28, 2026, 09:49:53 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on June 28, 2026, 08:52:31 AM
It's a cult that wants people to believe they're not socialists. They're democratic socialists.

With "platforms".

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3737 on: June 28, 2026, 10:37:49 AM »
Socialists: 'they're just democratic socialists with good intentions, and pLaTForMS, who forget to mention Denmark.'
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« Reply #3738 on: June 28, 2026, 10:38:39 AM »
Socialists: 'they're just democratic socialists with good intentions, and pLaTForMS, who forget to mention Denmark and Finland and Iceland and .....'
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« Reply #3739 on: June 28, 2026, 10:57:25 AM »
Mn has SDS
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #3740 on: June 28, 2026, 01:04:01 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on June 28, 2026, 10:57:25 AM
Mn has SDS

Is that what they call Alzheimer's now?
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #3741 on: June 28, 2026, 01:08:17 PM »
Did I say something bad about social democracies ?
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #3742 on: June 28, 2026, 04:19:04 PM »
Very telling.



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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #3743 on: June 29, 2026, 12:04:37 AM »
Socialism does not mean “social welfare programs”
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #3744 on: June 29, 2026, 07:59:25 AM »
Quote from: Custard on June 29, 2026, 12:04:37 AM
Socialism does not mean “social welfare programs”

A lot of years of FOX News brain-rot for Custard to reverse.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #3745 on: June 29, 2026, 08:01:38 AM »
It’s literally in the descriptor.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3746 on: June 29, 2026, 08:14:25 AM »
I don’t know that I’ve watched 10 cumulative minutes of Fox News in my lifetime, but I am educated and have retained some of that education.

Socialism, at its core, is public ownership of means of production.

A Northern European style social democracy is not socialism. Note that it doesn’t even have socialism in its name! It offers robust social programs that are paid for with heavy tax burdens, not seizure of the means of production. Free market economies are fundamentally not socialist regardless of how big their social safety nets are.
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« Reply #3747 on: June 29, 2026, 08:18:06 AM »
Words, over time, change; and often have multiple meanings or categories. I know you want to cling to the definition you grew up with (and were most likely inculcated with
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« Reply #3748 on: June 29, 2026, 08:19:05 AM »
“Social democracy” and “social safety nets” are very widely accepted terms.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3749 on: June 29, 2026, 09:58:13 AM »
Seizing the means of production is is not social democracy or a social safety net.

Eradicating western civilization is not a step towards a social democracy. Nor is it a step towards social safety nets.

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