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Let's talk about something we all can agree on...

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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #2237 on: October 21, 2024, 01:00:59 PM »
I recall a public discussion about the difference between conservative and liberal humor. This was when I was transitioning from a free market / free trade semi-social libertarian conservative to more of Euro style social democrat / free trade social libertarian.

Some on the left argued incorrectly that the right didn't grasp irony. In reality, the two sides just saw different things as ironic.

My thought at the time was a lot of right wing humor consisted of ridiculing / belittling others. The thing is, liberals do that too. They just have different targets. I do think liberals might tend to target bad  ideas rather than bad people more often than right wingers.

Someone, not sure who, came up with the idea that conservatives punch down, while liberals punch up.  I think that's partially true.

Unless there ultra dry irony involved, belittling the most vulnerable humans probably isn't the most wholesome form of humor.


« Last Edit: October 21, 2024, 01:10:12 PM by illiniray »
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #2238 on: October 21, 2024, 02:57:55 PM »
this is pretty funny

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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #2240 on: October 21, 2024, 11:24:52 PM »
Damn, so Eddie Van Halen was eating too much pussy? And I hear I thought it was the non-stop smoking of camel filters or metal picks in his mouth.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #2241 on: October 22, 2024, 07:52:52 AM »
Damn, so Eddie Van Halen was eating too much pussy? And I hear I thought it was the non-stop smoking of camel filters or metal picks in his mouth.

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« Reply #2242 on: October 22, 2024, 07:54:58 AM »
Valerie Bertinelli killed him. I knew it.

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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #2243 on: October 22, 2024, 08:28:00 AM »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #2244 on: October 23, 2024, 02:26:19 PM »
https://yaschamounk.substack.com/p/teixeira-levin?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=2709399&post_id=150573778&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=1nfyj&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

Why Is This Race So Damn Close?
Yascha Mounk, Ruy Teixeira, and Yuval Levin discuss why American elections are so close—and how one party could build a stable majority.

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They were voting for normalcy. They were voting for an end to the COVID pandemic and to get the economy back on track, and to just turn down the volume here on politics. Now, the way Biden actually governed, reflecting the compromises he made during his campaign and the way he staffed up once he was elected, really did empower the left of the party to a non-trivial extent. And that reflected a lot of the movement within the party and within the so-called discourse overall that took place in the George Floyd summer of 2020.

There was and has been a distinct move to the left on the part of Democrats on race and gender, crime and immigration and so on. And Biden did not come in determined to do much about that. In fact, one of the very first things he did was get rid of the Trump rules that were at least somewhat effective in keeping illegal immigration down. And, by George, we got a lot of illegal immigration.

The inability of Democrats to disidentify themselves with the unpopular aspects of their policies or of their image has definitely been a factor. Because they viewed themselves as being a transformative party in a transformative election, they actually had a very aggressive approach to legislating in the early parts of the Biden administration, which is really not justified by the situation and by the amount of support they had.

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Well, for all of my lifetime, I've heard people say that the underserved center of the country is economically conservative and socially liberal. And what we find is roughly the opposite of that. The core of what would need to be a durable majority coalition is relatively conservative, or at least moderate, on social issues relative to today's Democratic Party. It's quite conservative on social issues, but is also interested in an active government that spends money on behalf of the public. That's where economic policy is, I think, well to the left of where the Republican Party has generally wanted to be in my lifetime. So that the underserved middle is, broadly speaking, more socially conservative than the Democrats and more economically liberal than the Republicans. And both parties have had some trouble reaching that center. I think they can both see that there are opportunities there, but they both have had trouble letting go of the priorities of their own base. And I think the set of issues that present themselves there are uncomfortable for both parties. They would take real sacrifice for the base of both parties to be able to make the kinds of arguments you'd need to make. But that's really where the center is. And a lot of elites in both parties are most comfortable with the opposite of that, with a mirror image of that. And obviously, that's a big part of why the parties have had such trouble reaching these voters.

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From the standpoint of the Democrats, if you look at our survey and a lot of other data, you can see that, for example, people like immigrants. They think they're great, but they don't want an uncontrolled border. They don't want a lot of illegal immigration. And that's just very different from the attitude of Democrats and Democratic activists. And it was really an unbelievable, sort of in a way, unforced error that the Democrats come into office in 2021 and they basically open the floodgates because they're under such pressure from their advocacy groups to undo everything Donald Trump did that they just sort of like, they just made it open season.

People like immigration. They have nothing against immigrants. They realize immigration is part of the history of the country, but they don't want the border basically out of control, and they don't want their communities overburdened and so on and so forth.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #2245 on: October 23, 2024, 02:33:19 PM »
Been hearing the early voting lines in Tenn and Texas are long. That’s encouraging.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #2246 on: October 23, 2024, 02:39:58 PM »
https://yaschamounk.substack.com/p/teixeira-levin?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=2709399&post_id=150573778&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=1nfyj&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

Why Is This Race So Damn Close?
Yascha Mounk, Ruy Teixeira, and Yuval Levin discuss why American elections are so close—and how one party could build a stable majority.

Basically everything I’ve been trying to say here the past 3.5 years.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #2247 on: October 23, 2024, 02:50:33 PM »
Been hearing the early voting lines in Tenn and Texas are long. That’s encouraging.

That Republicans are now voting early too?

You had best keep your cup on for the first 3 weeks of November.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #2248 on: October 23, 2024, 03:19:52 PM »
Trump’s base is wayyyyy more energized than the installed Democrat candidate who is trying to save democracy’s base.
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Re: Let's talk about something we all can agree on...
« Reply #2249 on: October 23, 2024, 04:20:05 PM »
That Republicans are now voting early too?

You had best keep your cup on for the first 3 weeks of November.

In a state like Texas or Tennessee, there are only lines in Democratic areas. Greg Abbott makes sure there are plenty of polling places in Republican counties, no waiting needed.