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Latest Article/Conjecture about the Program
« on: April 28, 2021, 09:58:19 AM »
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/4/27/22406548/illinois-basketball-illini-ayo-dosunmu-kofi-cockburn

I have seen other articles in regards to the coaches possibly leaving, this one however is the first I have seen in regards to actual loss within due to this.

Curbelo a possible? We all may have thought this with OA leaving, but now it is in print, RJ and Plummer others as well? It may not be hard concrete reporting, but the hint is definately there.

Hutcherson and the back injury...will he even still be a scholarship player? Seems to point to the possibility that he may not be?
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Re: Latest Article/Conjecture about the Program
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2021, 10:53:43 AM »
Really not a lot there that we haven't discussed here....

I think it has been mentioned here for awhile that we could lose recruits if OA and Chin leave.
Anything is possible. Only Goode has signed of 21 and 22 recruits. I am sure any recruit (and maybe even transfers if not enrolled) can get out if there are staff changes and they request it.
I believe the portal deadline is May 1st, so if the OA and Chin announcement is Friday then Curbelo could announce that day on April 30th. 
I am guessing he and Plummer are package right now and it would be both staying or leaving. That could be one helluva Black Friday.

Hutcherson is supposedly doing well in workouts and the videos and reports (Kedric and others) seem to indicate he will be ready and likely have significant role. He is 6'7" in socks and is the longer wing we have not had who has ball skills and can guard bigger wings. If he is healthy- he sounds like a player.

I am assuming Miller is long gone, and Kofi likely gone.
We should still be competitive if no more defections and the new guys show up.
As always, I have no fckign idea what is going to happen.
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Re: Latest Article/Conjecture about the Program
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2021, 11:07:56 AM »
honestly whatever happens this off season I'll still watch nearly every game come November 2021
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Re: Latest Article/Conjecture about the Program
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2021, 11:12:53 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on April 28, 2021, 11:07:56 AM
honestly whatever happens this off season I'll still watch nearly every game come November 2021

It will be interesting. If the roster holds- Curbelo will get free reign to do whatever he wants and we will be chucking threes like a bitch. That means some ridiculous numbers and upsets when hot. And some beat downs when cold.
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Re: Latest Article/Conjecture about the Program
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2021, 12:15:13 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on April 28, 2021, 10:53:43 AM
. Only Goode has signed of 21 and 22 recruits. I

RJ Melendez and Brandin Podziemski signed the NLI.  Omar Payne signed some kind of scholarship  agreement.
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Re: Latest Article/Conjecture about the Program
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2021, 12:32:15 PM »
I think Curbelo likely stays, but there might be issues retaining some of the recruits and transfers
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2021, 12:36:07 PM »
The scrambling for assistants comment comes across as Chi-town passive aggressive condescension. To some extent, UI itself has earned this, but so have others. Also, so far, the AD and Uberwood seem to have plans in place.
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2021, 12:37:48 PM »
Can a recruit get out of a nli if an assistant leaves?
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2021, 12:40:47 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 28, 2021, 12:37:48 PM
Can a recruit get out of a nli if an assistant leaves?

Most schools won’t bother fighting that. Bad look and not worth it
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2021, 01:10:23 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on April 28, 2021, 10:53:43 AM
Really not a lot there that we haven't discussed here....

I think it has been mentioned here for awhile that we could lose recruits if OA and Chin leave.
Anything is possible. Only Goode has signed of 21 and 22 recruits. I am sure any recruit (and maybe even transfers if not enrolled) can get out if there are staff changes and they request it.
I believe the portal deadline is May 1st, so if the OA and Chin announcement is Friday then Curbelo could announce that day on April 30th. 
I am guessing he and Plummer are package right now and it would be both staying or leaving. That could be one helluva Black Friday.

Hutcherson is supposedly doing well in workouts and the videos and reports (Kedric and others) seem to indicate he will be ready and likely have significant role. He is 6'7" in socks and is the longer wing we have not had who has ball skills and can guard bigger wings. If he is healthy- he sounds like a player.

I am assuming Miller is long gone, and Kofi likely gone.
We should still be competitive if no more defections and the new guys show up.
As always, I have no fckign idea what is going to happen.

I get  your points, but as I started the thread with...we all have discussed most of the rumors...we are not reporters etc. My guess there has to be some serious substance to some if not all of this, rather than a bunch of armchair coaches typing back and forth about it.
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2021, 01:11:09 PM »
Quote from: Breal31 on April 28, 2021, 12:40:47 PM
Most schools won’t bother fighting that. Bad look and not worth it

Can't remember the last school who did actually try this, but they quickly rescinded that action. My guess it will never happen again now.
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2021, 01:12:39 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 28, 2021, 12:36:07 PM
The scrambling for assistants comment comes across as Chi-town passive aggressive condescension. To some extent, UI itself has earned this, but so have others. Also, so far, the AD and Uberwood seem to have plans in place.

I agree as we all know the reporting is slanted out of C-Town historically, lets hope this doesn't come to fruition now though. Chin we can afford to lose now, OA I am deadset against losing if there is anyway to keep him in place.
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2021, 01:14:38 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on April 28, 2021, 11:12:53 AM
It will be interesting. If the roster holds- Curbelo will get free reign to do whatever he wants and we will be chucking threes like a bitch. That means some ridiculous numbers and upsets when hot. And some beat downs when cold.

Not sure on that free reign part...the staff has brought in athletes and shooters. Belo will be givin free reign to create his shot (driving) and dishing to others, (3's) not so much. My understanding is however that he is hosting alot of practice shots, so that could change.

Don't forget Frazier is back and DaMonte may be as well?
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Re: Latest Article/Conjecture about the Program
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2021, 01:40:34 PM »
Quote from: ILLINICHIEF on April 28, 2021, 01:10:23 PM
I get  your points, but as I started the thread with...we all have discussed most of the rumors...we are not reporters etc. My guess there has to be some serious substance to some if not all of this, rather than a bunch of armchair coaches typing back and forth about it.

Nahh, these mainstream media guys are no better than the Twitter and Blog and related sites and get their info from same places as us, or are one and the same. They usually are late to the game.
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2021, 03:09:33 PM »
Quote from: ILLINICHIEF on April 28, 2021, 01:14:38 PM
Not sure on that free reign part...the staff has brought in athletes and shooters. Belo will be givin free reign to create his shot (driving) and dishing to others, (3's) not so much. My understanding is however that he is hosting alot of practice shots, so that could change.

Don't forget Frazier is back and DaMonte may be as well?

We will have very limited post offense with Jobu and Hawkins and BBV and Lieb.
I am guessing we take 23-24 threes a game. Could easily be the best threeball team we have had here- or the most reliant on them at least.
We were 310th in country in attempted threes (17) last year. Baylor took 24 a game.
Ncaa avg is 21-22.

Plummer is being brought in to shoot a buttload of threes. My guess is 7-8 a game by himself. You just let him go.
Frazier is all about transition and threes. He really has limited midrange and finishing skills in halfcourt and can't really get his own. You let him go also.
My guess is Curbelo is planning on having a huge year and hoping to go pro. He will have to show he has a midrange and threeball.
He will be one of highest possession guys in country. It is his team. Let him have fun out there.

Hutch is advertised as a skilled wing and three guy. Not sure he can get to the rim off the bounce, but maybe. He certainly has the best hops on team.
He is a mystery and an X factor.
Damonte can't really score other than spot up threes. They may start him or Grandison early or if Hutch can't go, or bombs.
The new guys are all interesting and could be good scorers down the road, and they like to shoot. Will need to see how they fit in, but let it rip.




 



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