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Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch

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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster Watch
« Reply #285 on: April 20, 2021, 08:55:51 AM »
No, def not. He only cleaned out Walker. But he probably should have come in with raises for the staff after the season and didn’t....calls came in to these guys and all of them at least listened

JFC, is it amateur hour down there?

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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster Watch
« Reply #286 on: April 20, 2021, 09:07:02 AM »
I thought maybe someone was leaving to make room for Tre Mitchell’s mom’s boyfriend or whatever

Yeah, that guy (Tony Bergeron) brings nothing else to the table. Isn’t getting any interest from what I understand

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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster Watch
« Reply #287 on: April 20, 2021, 10:44:03 AM »
JFC, is it amateur hour down there?

When hasn't it been amateur hour? [The Custard signal has been lit!]
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster Watch
« Reply #288 on: April 20, 2021, 11:56:51 AM »
It’s kinda funny about Liddell as the ridiculous transfer rumor has been out there, but one of his best friends is on the football team. Keith Something. I don’t think there’s anything to it

Gentry might be the biggest threat to leave. Orlando likely getting a well deserved raise. Kansas came after Chin to replace Howard but sounds like they should be able to keep him. Some odd stuff going on though behind the scenes, pretty uncommon your entire staff would be flirting elsewhere after a season like that

A season like that like also  makes your assistants attractive options elsewhere. Tommy Lloyd leaving Zaga for Zona creates openings both places. If they called Gentry the lead assistant or associate hc or something it would look less like a lateral move.

Natural that Chin would be a candidate to replace  Snacks. Makes  sense to listen to a KU,  but that ruling is pending.

Lots of speculation about UK paying OA huge dollars to return, but they don't have an opening.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster Watch
« Reply #289 on: April 20, 2021, 12:12:45 PM »
AZ a mess too. Besides NCAA issues, former players are angry with the way Lloyd was hired.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster Watch
« Reply #290 on: April 20, 2021, 01:29:07 PM »
A season like that like also  makes your assistants attractive options elsewhere. Tommy Lloyd leaving Zaga for Zona creates openings both places. If they called Gentry the lead assistant or associate hc or something it would look less like a lateral move.

Natural that Chin would be a candidate to replace  Snacks. Makes  sense to listen to a KU,  but that ruling is pending.

Lots of speculation about UK paying OA huge dollars to return, but they don't have an opening.


https://www.aseaofblue.com/2021/3/11/22325868/orlando-antigua-uk-wildcats-basketball-recruiting-news-kentucky-illinois


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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster Watch
« Reply #291 on: April 20, 2021, 01:36:49 PM »
When hasn't it been amateur hour? [The Custard signal has been lit!]

A few weeks ago everyone was complaining that Underwhelm/achiever and staff weren’t sustaining any momentum, and we were on the cusp of being back to a bubble team or worse.

Now we are cussing Whitman because he didn’t pony up and pay the assistants more in the wake of one of the program’s most embarrassing tourney flameouts?

I actually would have been more than ok with having given those guys a raise after a historically good season (by Illinois standards) with a team they built. But it was a tough recruiting cycle and I think we all can admit things weren’t looking so hot a few weeks ago. So it may not have been received particularly well.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster Watch
« Reply #292 on: April 20, 2021, 01:40:49 PM »
A few weeks ago everyone was complaining that Underwhelm/achiever and staff weren’t sustaining any momentum, and we were on the cusp of being back to a bubble team or worse.

Now we are cussing Whitman because he didn’t pony up and pay the assistants more in the wake of one of the program’s most embarrassing tourney flameouts?

I actually would have been more than ok with having given those guys a raise after a historically good season (by Illinois standards) with a team they built. But it was a tough recruiting cycle and I think we all can admit things weren’t looking so hot a few weeks ago. So it may not have been received particularly well.

This post is almost Tempo-like in its conflation of relevant concepts.

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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster Watch
« Reply #293 on: April 20, 2021, 01:50:12 PM »
https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Article/Illinois-basketball-Brad-Underwood-coaching-carousel-staff-turnover-Orlando-Antigua-Chin-Coleman-Stephen-Gentry-164417823/

Unless we pony up BIG $$$$ and make Orlando the highest paid non head coach in the land with a seriously huge buyout option, he will be gone. Our recruiting will fall squarely on Chin's head then....Gentry is the in game guy. I don't think Self has enough to lure Chin imo, especially with the lifetime contract and the ??? over the program in the past.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster Watch
« Reply #294 on: April 20, 2021, 02:16:17 PM »
This post is almost Tempo-like in its conflation of relevant concepts.

Thanks I felt the same way when I was composing it. The concept of “rational fanaticism” really sticks in my craw.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster Watch
« Reply #295 on: April 20, 2021, 02:47:55 PM »
Good stuff.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster Watch
« Reply #296 on: April 20, 2021, 02:59:33 PM »
https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Article/Illinois-basketball-Brad-Underwood-coaching-carousel-staff-turnover-Orlando-Antigua-Chin-Coleman-Stephen-Gentry-164417823/

Unless we pony up BIG $$$$ and make Orlando the highest paid non head coach in the land with a seriously huge buyout option, he will be gone. Our recruiting will fall squarely on Chin's head then....Gentry is the in game guy. I don't think Self has enough to lure Chin imo, especially with the lifetime contract and the ??? over the program in the past.

Want to "build" on that momentum... ::)

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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster Watch
« Reply #297 on: April 20, 2021, 02:59:41 PM »
A few weeks ago everyone was complaining that Underwhelm/achiever and staff weren’t sustaining any momentum, and we were on the cusp of being back to a bubble team or worse.

Now we are cussing Whitman because he didn’t pony up and pay the assistants more in the wake of one of the program’s most embarrassing tourney flameouts?

I actually would have been more than ok with having given those guys a raise after a historically good season (by Illinois standards) with a team they built. But it was a tough recruiting cycle and I think we all can admit things weren’t looking so hot a few weeks ago. So it may not have been received particularly well.

Huh?

The ONLY way this program (or any program) has any sustainability is with recruiting. The coach 'em up theory is limited and pretty much bullshit. Talent wins unless you totally step on your dick as a coach.
We have all said to pay Antigua and Chin what they need to stay.
The recruiting is OK for incoming 2021 class. We are presently 27th in the nation. 4th in BT.
Not bad, not great. It will tide us over, but we will need a strong 2022 and 2023 class with a top PG, and some inside help.

It is clear that these assistants have brought in some higher level talent in past three years (Ayo, Kofi, Curbelo, Miller).
The biggest get for 2021 is a proven scorer in Plummer. And Payne fills a need for better or worse.

Nobody would have complained for one second about paying them.

What people didn't like was the shit in game coaching in the NCAA loss. If that was Gentry's role- then good riddance.
But Hulka is ultimately in charge in a game.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster Watch
« Reply #298 on: April 20, 2021, 03:36:57 PM »

https://www.aseaofblue.com/2021/3/11/22325868/orlando-antigua-uk-wildcats-basketball-recruiting-news-kentucky-illinois


Read that. Mar 11, 2021

"To bring him on though that means that someone on staff would obviously have to leave in order to open that spot on the coaching staff."

"With Joel Justus aspiring to make the jump to a head coach, and Bruiser Flint potentially wanting to get back to being a head coach somewhere, it’s very plausible that a spot could open up if they find a good mid-major opportunity elsewhere."
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« Reply #299 on: April 20, 2021, 04:31:08 PM »
Read that. Mar 11, 2021

"To bring him on though that means that someone on staff would obviously have to leave in order to open that spot on the coaching staff."

"With Joel Justus aspiring to make the jump to a head coach, and Bruiser Flint potentially wanting to get back to being a head coach somewhere, it’s very plausible that a spot could open up if they find a good mid-major opportunity elsewhere."


Yeah, they assume if a spot opens up they can just pick up the phone and get him.