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Re: Rambling
« Reply #345 on: March 24, 2021, 09:40:24 PM »
You mean your “we’re better without Ayo” theory based on two games?

But I’ll admit that I bought into the “hype” late in the season even though I should’ve known better. Rather than trust my instincts like I have over the last 15 years with the miserable mess I call Illini basketball, it sucked me back in for a few weeks only to punch me in the nuts again.

But all the warning signs for a “Loyola” like performance were there early in the season, so at the end of the day it didn’t surprise me, I just expected Genius to make some adjustments at some point, but he showed he’s incapable of doing that and yes I heard he said he tried everything 🤣🤣🤣, which is lip service for I got owned and don’t want to own it.

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« Reply #346 on: March 24, 2021, 10:09:28 PM »
Never blamed Kofi.  More on Underwood and the gameplan.  Im saying put Kofi on that dude out high and dont let him get easy passes to wherever the wanted to go.   It was a stupid defensive gameplan.  At least change something at the half.

Have you seen Kofi try to guard people more than 10 feet from the basket? It’s not that he didn’t guard him...he couldn’t guard him. This is exactly why the NBA has gone away from behemoths in the middle.

Kofi is our rim protector and defensive anchor. He’s great within 5’ of the rim and borderline useless anywhere else. Krutwig pulled him away from the basket and they gashed us on easy cuts to the rim because he wasn’t there to erase them. It also wore Kofi the fuck out guarding him. And Krut straight up backed Kofi down and scored on him a couple of times early.

So the staff tried Giorgi and that didn’t work so they had Kofi sag off and Krutwig took advantage of that, too. And when they got penetration off the pick and roll, Kofi got caught several times hedging and they found Krutwig on the lob.

Kofi hadn’t seen a guy with that skill set being used in that way in his college career. Versatility is the name of today’s game and Kofi’s lack of versatility is fairly well documented. Kofi is truly dominant at what he does, but he’s only been playing basketball for five years. The other day he got abused by a high basketball IQ versatile doughy balding white guy with a porn ‘stache. Shit happens. That’s kinda the beauty and the fuckery of the tournament.

The biggest problem is that since the offense runs through Krutwig, we didn’t have a way to hide Kofi defensively and we couldn’t do without him offensively. And there’s simply no long athletic lockdown defender on the roster we could throw at Krutwig. Giorgi clearly wasn’t up to the task. If you throw Grandison or DMW at him he’ll back them down and score at will. He’s a great passer and they cut well so doubling is a problem.

Truly a horrible matchup for our personnel on the defensive end. I was more troubled by our inability to adjust and win matchups on the offensive end. Obviously they’re statistically a great defensive team and it showed.

Watching Kofi trying to pick and roll 22’ from the basket as Ayo got iced over and over and over again was absolutely maddening. Kofi got his 20 but they made him work surprisingly hard for most of them. Missed quite a few around the basket that normally go down. Trent had a guy in his pocket all game but had some good looks that just didn’t drop.

Even though I thought the team did a fairly good job of not panicking, it makes you wonder how seeing those misses combined with their relentless efficiency affected our guys mentally down the stretch.

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Re: Rambling
« Reply #347 on: March 24, 2021, 10:35:23 PM »

What did it get us besides arguably the most embarrassing College basketball program in America right now minus maybe Ohio State.

IMO, the choke job by #1 seed Illinois was more embarrassing. Most self-proclaimed experts had Illinois in the Final Four and the championship game. A few even had the Illini winning it all. No injured players. Illinois is a basketball school, right? Clearly the football program is nothing special.

OTOH, no so-called expert had Ohio State winning March Madness this year. A few delusional individuals might have picked the Buckeyes to make the Final Four even without F Kyle Young. Apparently those individuals forgot OSU is first and foremost a football school. Basketball is merely a diversion until spring practice starts.

 

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« Reply #348 on: March 24, 2021, 10:48:49 PM »
We could have played any sort of Half ass matchup zone and stopped their backdoor layup drill at least and had Kofi just stand in the middle.  We don't have a zone. We are real men. We only play man. Total joke.
Ayo got beat at least 3 or 4 times on simple backdoors. He also fouled a jump shooter twice at end of shot clock who was forcing some desperate shit. He alone cost us 10-12 points on bad defense. It wasn't just him being exposed as not a legit lead/point guard.
Dirty little secret. He is pretty medicore defender. Started shooting  the passing lanes late in season, but otherwise not much on D.


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Re: Rambling
« Reply #349 on: March 24, 2021, 11:17:48 PM »
Prove it wrong then.

They sure looked good against Nebraska and Wisconsin. Manhandled #2 on the road by 23. But again I get it. Because it’s Ayo the “savior” he gets a pass. Shoot another 40 times chasing 20.

I’ve yet to see one poster give me a valid response other than. “But he’s our all American” “he’s Batman!”...

I can’t. It’s unprovable either way. I just know that it’s likely nonsense.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Rambling
« Reply #350 on: March 25, 2021, 07:17:09 AM »
I can’t. It’s unprovable either way. I just know that it’s likely nonsense.

So, in other words I’m right. Thanks!!!

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Re: Rambling
« Reply #351 on: March 25, 2021, 07:29:44 AM »
We could have played any sort of Half ass matchup zone and stopped their backdoor layup drill at least and had Kofi just stand in the middle.  We don't have a zone. We are real men. We only play man. Total joke.
Ayo got beat at least 3 or 4 times on simple backdoors. He also fouled a jump shooter twice at end of shot clock who was forcing some desperate shit. He alone cost us 10-12 points on bad defense. It wasn't just him being exposed as not a legit lead/point guard.
Dirty little secret. He is pretty medicore defender. Started shooting  the passing lanes late in season, but otherwise not much on D.
Has the "we play man defense only" approach done anything good in the last 30 years? The team we played Sunday ran a clinic on how to beat an average man defense with a post player who can pass.

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« Reply #352 on: March 25, 2021, 09:26:26 AM »
So, in other words I’m right. Thanks!!!

No, it’s unprovable. I said “it’s unprovable either way.” We’d need more than a two game sample size to reach a definitive conclusion.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Rambling
« Reply #353 on: March 25, 2021, 09:33:41 AM »
Sick of hearing about Loyola. Fucking Underachiever. Getting completely pantsed by Porter Moser. Bullshit. Where is that fuck Guenther Lite's apology letter to alums for the embarrassing performance on Sunday? Fucking same old stuff in Champaign. Focusing on the wrong stuff (oh, we should have won the B1G title even though I voted to use a standard that would work against us!). The whole school, from top to bottom, continues to be run by morons who don't get the role of sports. Better sports = more cash for the school as a whole. Dumbfucks.
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Re: Rambling
« Reply #354 on: March 25, 2021, 09:50:02 AM »
Sick of hearing about Loyola. Fucking Underachiever. Getting completely pantsed by Porter Moser. Bullshit. Where is that fuck Guenther Lite's apology letter to alums for the embarrassing performance on Sunday? Fucking same old stuff in Champaign. Focusing on the wrong stuff (oh, we should have won the B1G title even though I voted to use a standard that would work against us!). The whole school, from top to bottom, continues to be run by morons who don't get the role of sports. Better sports = more cash for the school as a whole. Dumbfucks.


Abilene Christian claims they made $ 121 million from their NCAA appearance.
We sort of lost three recruits from ours. LOL.

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Re: Rambling
« Reply #355 on: March 25, 2021, 09:57:43 AM »

Abilene Christian claims they made $ 121 million from their NCAA appearance.
We sort of lost three recruits from ours. LOL.

They saw that the coaching staff was completely embarrassed by Porter Moser.
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Re: Rambling
« Reply #356 on: March 25, 2021, 10:27:52 AM »
The whole school, from top to bottom, continues to be run by morons who don't get the role of sports. Better sports = more cash for the school as a whole.

its no coincidence that sports have been an afterthought since Blago decided to change the board of trustees to be politically appointed rather than any sort of democratic process...

all you have as trustees now are these complete morons who could give two shits less about the school, most of the time they didn't even go there, making big decisions about it

and in pure Illinois politics fashion, its a fucking dumpster fire ripe with corruption as usual
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Re: Rambling
« Reply #357 on: March 25, 2021, 11:41:31 AM »
Sick of hearing about Loyola. Fucking Underachiever. Getting completely pantsed by Porter Moser. Bullshit. Where is that fuck Guenther Lite's apology letter to alums for the embarrassing performance on Sunday? Fucking same old stuff in Champaign. Focusing on the wrong stuff (oh, we should have won the B1G title even though I voted to use a standard that would work against us!). The whole school, from top to bottom, continues to be run by morons who don't get the role of sports. Better sports = more cash for the school as a whole. Dumbfucks.

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« Reply #358 on: March 25, 2021, 12:20:10 PM »
No, it’s unprovable. I said “it’s unprovable either way.” We’d need more than a two game sample size to reach a definitive conclusion.

Why? Because you said so?🤔🤔🤔

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« Reply #359 on: March 25, 2021, 12:22:41 PM »
its no coincidence that sports have been an afterthought since Blago decided to change the board of trustees to be politically appointed rather than any sort of democratic process...

all you have as trustees now are these complete morons who could give two shits less about the school, most of the time they didn't even go there, making big decisions about it

and in pure Illinois politics fashion, its a fucking dumpster fire ripe with corruption as usual

The switch from elected trustees to an appointed position took place in 1996.   You can blame former Governor Jim Edgar, who led the efforts to pass the legislation that changed the governance system.   Blagojevich, who was in the Illinois House of Representatives at the time, voted against the trustee appointment bill.