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Re: Underwood
« Reply #825 on: January 07, 2022, 10:57:53 AM »
Quote from: Lkdog on January 07, 2022, 12:11:21 AM
When he takes a team past the first round in the NCAA's he and you will have something to talk about.
Anything short of a S16 with this team will be a disappointment. I hope we make it. We certainly have the talent.

Yeah, but at Illinois getting to the top of the B1G and losing in the 2d round (to Loyola) makes you a great coach. The bigotry of low expectations.
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« Reply #826 on: January 07, 2022, 12:56:33 PM »
That’s such a bizarre straw man. I don’t know anyone who wasn’t disappointed with the loss to Loyola. Just not sure that one game in a single elimination tournament should overshadow a pretty remarkable turnaround to a program that had been wallowing in pathetic mediocrity for over a decade.
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« Reply #827 on: January 07, 2022, 05:26:56 PM »
This has the look of a team that can do well in the tournament; especially if Hawkins,  Payne, and the freshmen  keep improving.

Concerns:

What happens if Kofi gets in foul trouble; plus Plummer, Trent, and Slim all have a cold shooting game?

Would a return of Belo disrupt chemistry?
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« Reply #828 on: January 07, 2022, 05:57:29 PM »
I think when Belo returns that he actually will enhance our outside gunners.  With him driving the lane with multiple perimeter options, not to mention Kofi, I think we have a chance to be special.   
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« Reply #829 on: January 07, 2022, 07:35:43 PM »
My Bovada balance is $159. Thinking about putting it all on the Illini to win the title at 33-1.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #830 on: January 07, 2022, 09:41:10 PM »
Do it.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #831 on: January 07, 2022, 09:59:18 PM »
Quote from: Custard on January 07, 2022, 12:56:33 PM
That’s such a bizarre straw man. I don’t know anyone who wasn’t disappointed with the loss to Loyola. Just not sure that one game in a single elimination tournament should overshadow a pretty remarkable turnaround to a program that had been wallowing in pathetic mediocrity for over a decade.

It's not a straw man. Lot of people have had their heads out over their skis. How about a nice tournament run, or two, before we annoint him? The program had been a good one for quite some time and should be a good one. Not sure that Bruce and Groce being incompetent boobs means that Underwood is the Second Coming.
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« Reply #832 on: January 08, 2022, 04:32:35 AM »
Second coming? No. But Underwood has been legit at Illinois. He’s put together consecutive national title contenders at Illinois; and the recruiting has been solid. If he manages to sustain what he’s doing, he’ll have proven to be an excellent long-term hire.

Yes, the tournament collapse was an all-timer, but to me, giving yourself repeated chances is more important than a single tourney outcome. If he keeps getting top 3 seeds in the NCAA Tourney, the tourney loss to Loyola becomes forgivable.
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« Reply #833 on: January 08, 2022, 09:12:48 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 08, 2022, 04:32:35 AM

Yes, the tournament collapse was an all-timer, but to me, giving yourself repeated chances is more important than a single tourney outcome. If he keeps getting top 3 seeds in the NCAA Tourney, the tourney loss to Loyola becomes forgivable.

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« Reply #834 on: January 08, 2022, 09:26:40 AM »
Damn you beat me to it. I actually agree with everything Tempo posted. It’s rational, coherent, and a pretty good take overall. Nice and refreshing. Some might actually call it…..well….poetry.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #835 on: January 08, 2022, 09:32:39 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 08, 2022, 09:26:40 AM
Damn you beat me to it. I actually agree with everything Tempo posted. It’s rational, coherent, and a pretty good take overall. Nice and refreshing. Some might actually call it…..well….poetry.
Or an outlier.

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« Reply #836 on: January 08, 2022, 09:36:06 AM »
I’d say almost all of my work is vastly underrated and under-appreciated…
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« Reply #837 on: January 08, 2022, 09:45:26 AM »
I think it’s plenty appreciated, but perhaps in a different way.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #838 on: January 08, 2022, 09:50:04 AM »
Quote from: Custard on January 08, 2022, 09:45:26 AM
I think it’s plenty appreciated, but perhaps in a different way.

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #839 on: January 08, 2022, 09:52:16 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 08, 2022, 09:36:06 AM
I’d say almost all of my work is vastly underrated and under-appreciated…

Only eight days into 2022 and we already have the “least surprising” POTY.

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