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Re: Underwood
« Reply #765 on: October 30, 2021, 04:10:27 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on October 30, 2021, 03:05:53 PM
Time will tell. He’s lucky Kofi came back and Trent and DaMonte still have eligibility. We’ll see if he can keep it rolling in the future without Antigua and Coleman.

Yeah man it’s all luck. They definitely didn’t put any work at all into convincing those guys to come back.

And if DMW and Trent didn’t have the extra year of eligibility, I’m sure they wouldn’t have added any quality transfers to take their places.

But I agree it was really good that Kofi came back in the end because his months-long circus really hamstrung the staff from getting any of the high quality big men that were in the transfer portal.

The new staff already has a couple top 100 guys committed and are squarely in the mix on several other top players. Simply can’t replace Antigua but early signs are pretty promising. Really need to capitalize on our national prominence to keep the momentum going. Every time we get to this level something derails the train, so it’s hard not to have PTSD.

And yes things weren’t looking too hot but that’s why you see how things shake out before condemning a coach that’s been successful everywhere he’s been as a one hit wonder.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #766 on: October 30, 2021, 04:12:16 PM »
Quote from: Custard on October 30, 2021, 04:10:27 PM
Yeah man it’s all luck. They definitely didn’t put any work at all into convincing those guys to come back.

And if DMW and Trent didn’t have the extra year of eligibility, I’m sure they wouldn’t have added any quality transfers to take their places.

But I agree it was really good that Kofi came back in the end because his months-long circus really hamstrung the staff from getting any of the high quality big men that were in the transfer portal.

The new staff already has a couple top 100 guys committed and are squarely in the mix on several other top players. Simply can’t replace Antigua but early signs are pretty promising. Really need to capitalize on our national prominence to keep the momentum going. Every time we get to this level something derails the train, so it’s hard not to have PTSD.

And yes things weren’t looking too hot but that’s why you see how things shake out before condemning a coach that’s been successful everywhere he’s been as a one hit wonder.

Quit being rational.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #767 on: October 30, 2021, 04:29:12 PM »
Reasonable gonna reasonableness.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #768 on: October 30, 2021, 05:00:47 PM »
If I were truly a narcissist I’d have never willingly confessed that I was dead wrong on Trestman (embarrassing). None of you would have ever known that had I not offered it un-coerced.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #769 on: October 30, 2021, 05:03:03 PM »
But I will say, I’m rather fond of my own opinions (that doesn’t make me unique).
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« Reply #770 on: October 30, 2021, 05:04:35 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on October 30, 2021, 05:03:03 PM
But I will say, I’m rather fond of my own opinions (that doesn’t make me unique).

Oh we know.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #771 on: October 30, 2021, 05:06:54 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on October 30, 2021, 05:04:35 PM
Oh we know.

Just trying to inject a little levity into the discussion. Won’t happen again.
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« Reply #772 on: October 30, 2021, 05:08:58 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on October 30, 2021, 05:06:54 PM
Just trying to inject a little levity into the discussion. Won’t happen again.

It’s ok. Sometimes it just becomes too much and overwhelming for some. Small doses though is fun. Just my opinion. Do your thing.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #773 on: October 30, 2021, 05:31:36 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on October 30, 2021, 03:49:36 PM
That is totally different statement in which you clearly think he and team and program pretty much sucks ass. So I guess that is your lane.

 

You posted something about not posting in-game. Imo, post in-game all you want.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #774 on: October 30, 2021, 06:47:04 PM »
Quote from: Mn on October 30, 2021, 05:31:36 PM
You posted something about not posting in-game. Imo, post in-game all you want.

I am just like all of us.  I wonder wtf abt rotations and plays when I get pissed. 😆

I do think this year will be more fun to watch. If they guard, could be very good team.
This Kofi suspension thing hurts developing cohesion though.
It sucks.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #775 on: October 30, 2021, 07:44:28 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on October 30, 2021, 06:47:04 PM
I am just like all of us.  I wonder wtf abt rotations and plays when I get pissed. 😆

I do think this year will be more fun to watch. If they guard, could be very good team.
This Kofi suspension thing hurts developing cohesion though.
It sucks.
And I suppose we could have proactively sat Kofi for the next 2 games, and hope the NCAA views that as a self-imposed and sufficient penalty.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #776 on: October 30, 2021, 09:11:09 PM »
Quote from: Mn on October 30, 2021, 07:44:28 PM
And I suppose we could have proactively sat Kofi for the next 2 games, and hope the NCAA views that as a self-imposed and sufficient penalty.

Doubt that would have worked, but coulda been worth a shot. Not sure what Kofi gets out of playing against undersized guys (I’m assuming).
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #777 on: October 30, 2021, 09:26:10 PM »
Quote from: Custard on October 30, 2021, 04:10:27 PM
Yeah man it’s all luck. They definitely didn’t put any work at all into convincing those guys to come back.

And if DMW and Trent didn’t have the extra year of eligibility, I’m sure they wouldn’t have added any quality transfers to take their places.

But I agree it was really good that Kofi came back in the end because his months-long circus really hamstrung the staff from getting any of the high quality big men that were in the transfer portal.

The new staff already has a couple top 100 guys committed and are squarely in the mix on several other top players. Simply can’t replace Antigua but early signs are pretty promising. Really need to capitalize on our national prominence to keep the momentum going. Every time we get to this level something derails the train, so it’s hard not to have PTSD.

And yes things weren’t looking too hot but that’s why you see how things shake out before condemning a coach that’s been successful everywhere he’s been as a one hit wonder.

Didn’t notice this till just now. I never said it was all luck. But the pandemic/eligibility rules certainly seemed to work in Underwood’s favor.

“Everywhere he’s been” is a bit of a reach IMO. The guy was a HC all of four years before getting here, and inherited a couple of really nice situations. Illinois was the worst situation he inherited, and I’m not sure he does what he does without Antigua and Coleman, who are now obviously both gone.

As I’ve said, he’s exceeded my expectations for him by quite a bit, but it’s also come with what I view as one of the 2-3 worst tourney losses we’ve ever had. Despite the fact Loyola was underseeded. I will be very curious to see if he can maintain the program to a top 10-15 level without Antigua and Chin. Time will tell.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #778 on: October 30, 2021, 09:29:21 PM »
Damn, I did not realize until now two of Underwood’s seasons at SFA were vacated…
« Last Edit: October 30, 2021, 09:33:07 PM by Tempo34 »
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« Reply #779 on: October 30, 2021, 09:36:02 PM »
So non-vacated winning percentage in 6 years of coaching is .597.

2-3 in the NCAAs (one of those teams a 1 seed). Yep, massive winner. Undeniable.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2021, 09:38:49 PM by Tempo34 »
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