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Re: Underwood
« Reply #510 on: March 29, 2021, 10:42:33 AM »
Quote from: Jobu on March 29, 2021, 07:49:43 AM
Mr. chickengeorge, I don't know if I've ever mentioned this, but I like you.

Just wanted you to know that.

Wasn’t ChickenGeorge once revealed to be racist?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #511 on: March 29, 2021, 10:46:52 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 29, 2021, 10:42:33 AM
Wasn’t ChickenGeorge once revealed to be racist?

No, probably just sexist. By just you.
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« Reply #512 on: March 29, 2021, 10:48:15 AM »
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No, probably just sexist. By just you.

Better put some band-aids on my ankles.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #513 on: March 29, 2021, 10:50:24 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 29, 2021, 10:42:33 AM
Wasn’t ChickenGeorge once revealed to be racist?

No.  But I think you are a racist.  You hate whitey.
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« Reply #514 on: March 29, 2021, 10:52:28 AM »
Quote from: Chickengeorge on March 29, 2021, 10:50:24 AM
No.  But I think you are a racist.  You hate whitey.

The last couple days you’re making a run for “Poster of the Year.”

Or it could just have something to do with “low-hanging fruit” or something like that.
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« Reply #515 on: March 29, 2021, 10:52:52 AM »
So Musselman and Oats—despite practically having the same resumes as Underwood—are higher on Texas’ list than Underwood (in a year in which Underwood had the most successful overall season) because Underwood lost to Loyola.

There is some danger in overvaluing tourney performances. John Groce, for example. All the HOFers you brought up have had worse tourney losses than Loyola, including Pitino. But their overall bodies of work are tremendous, which is why you keep recommending them.

Also why would Cal leave the bluest blue blood  for any other reason than his seat was getting warm and/or needed a change of scenery? He’s already the highest paid coach in CBB at over 8 million a year.
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« Reply #516 on: March 29, 2021, 10:54:59 AM »
Quote from: Custard on March 29, 2021, 10:52:52 AM
So Musselman and Oats—despite practically having the same resumes as Underwood—are higher on Texas’ list than Underwood (in a year in which Underwood had the most successful overall season) because Underwood lost to Loyola.

There is some danger in overvaluing tourney performances. John Groce, for example. All the HOFers you brought up have had worse tourney losses than Loyola, including Pitino. But their overall bodies of work are tremendous, which is why you keep recommending them.

Also why would Cal leave the bluest blue blood  for any other reason than his seat was getting warm and/or needed a change of scenery? He’s already the highest paid coach in CBB at over 8 million a year.

Way too many words. Only takes 3.

Waste. Of. Time.
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« Reply #517 on: March 29, 2021, 11:00:48 AM »
Quote from: Custard on March 29, 2021, 10:52:52 AM
So Musselman and Oats—despite practically having the same resumes as Underwood—are higher on Texas’ list than Underwood (in a year in which Underwood had the most successful overall season) because Underwood lost to Loyola.

There is some danger in overvaluing tourney performances. John Groce, for example. All the HOFers you brought up have had worse tourney losses than Loyola, including Pitino. But their overall bodies of work are tremendous, which is why you keep recommending them.

Also why would Cal leave the bluest blue blood  for any other reason than his seat was getting warm and/or needed a change of scenery? He’s already the highest paid coach in CBB at over 8 million a year.

Musselman’s style would be appealing to Texas. Plus his were quicker turnarounds. Moody will be a top 10 draft pick. Musselman came from the NBA. Underwood from Juco
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« Reply #518 on: March 29, 2021, 11:01:31 AM »
Oats would be better than Underwood because his career trajectory seems much sharper. And he’s younger.
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« Reply #519 on: March 29, 2021, 11:06:28 AM »
Quote from: Chickengeorge on March 29, 2021, 10:50:24 AM
No.  But I think you are a racist.  You hate whitey.

I mean; he kinda deserves it, doesn’t he?
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« Reply #520 on: March 29, 2021, 11:11:14 AM »
Who / where are the young, up and coming coaches? Most of the name coaches mentioned in this thread are about Underwood's age or older.   

Bill Self was 37 when Illinois hired him in June of 2000. 

Young Coaches?  Lavall Jordan 42 in April. Archie Miller 43 in October.  Nate Oats 47 in October. Bryce Drew 47 in September. Chris Beard 48.  Mick Cronin 50 in June.  Chris Holtmann 50 in November. Sean Miller 53 in November.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #521 on: March 29, 2021, 11:12:43 AM »
Quote from: Custard on March 29, 2021, 10:52:52 AM
...because Underwood lost to Loyola.

There is some danger in overvaluing tourney performances. John Groce, for example. All the HOFers you brought up have had worse tourney losses than Loyola, including Pitino. But their overall bodies of work are tremendous, which is why you keep recommending them.


Maybe, just maybe, "how" Illinois lost to Loyola would be the reason why? Guy did zilch at halftime. Completely inexcusable. But, here we are. The "BUFFs" are rolling at HQ2.
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« Reply #522 on: March 29, 2021, 11:13:56 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 29, 2021, 11:06:28 AM
I mean; he kinda deserves it, doesn’t he?

I have this crazy habit, I judge individuals based on their actions.  Could give a fuck about their color.
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« Reply #523 on: March 29, 2021, 11:14:24 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 29, 2021, 10:28:09 AM
You can’t possibly agree that Underwood would be among Texas’ top 3 or so choices.

Where have I remotely said anything close to that? Of course they would take Cal or Pitino over Underachiever. They are not going to take either Underachiever or Miller.
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« Reply #524 on: March 29, 2021, 11:14:37 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on March 29, 2021, 11:11:14 AM
Who / where are the young, up and coming coaches? Most of the names coaches mentioned in this thread are about Underwood's age or older.   

Bill Self was 37 when Illinois hired him in June of 2000. 

Young Coaches?  Lavall Jordan 42 in April. Archie Miller 43 in November.  Nate Oats 47 in October. Mick Cronin 50 in June.  Chris Holtmann 50 in November. Sean Miller 53 in November.

Beard and Drew. Almost certainly those are the top two names on their list. I could possibly see Beard turning them down. Drew strikes me as an opportunist who would quickly jump at the offer.
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