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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5670 on: September 12, 2023, 12:46:08 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on September 12, 2023, 11:38:45 AM
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/04/23/surprising-geography-of-gun-violence-00092413

shockingly if you remove all the black and hispanic people in the USA our gun death rate is similar to scandinavian countries

strange isn't it
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5671 on: September 12, 2023, 12:52:33 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on September 12, 2023, 12:46:08 PM
shockingly if you remove all the black and hispanic people in the USA our gun death rate is similar to scandinavian countries

strange isn't it

People wanna scream racism, but it’s true. Nobody wants to talk about that or have that discussion…
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5672 on: September 12, 2023, 12:54:02 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on September 12, 2023, 12:46:08 PM
shockingly if you remove all the black and hispanic people in the USA our gun death rate is similar to scandinavian countries

strange isn't it

Now do "the poors"....
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5673 on: September 12, 2023, 12:55:13 PM »
Quote from: Mn on September 12, 2023, 12:36:46 PM
Back on topic ...



"Low confidence"? I find it hard to get worked up about "low confidence."
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5674 on: September 12, 2023, 12:58:07 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5675 on: September 12, 2023, 01:15:16 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on September 12, 2023, 11:38:45 AM
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/04/23/surprising-geography-of-gun-violence-00092413

So the tendency to resort to deadly violence appears to be cultural and regional. Take away legal guns; they will obtain them illegally. If we somehow manage to take away illegal guns; they'll use knives. Or homemade bombs.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5676 on: September 12, 2023, 01:22:19 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on September 12, 2023, 12:46:08 PM
shockingly if you remove all the black and hispanic people in the USA our gun death rate is similar to scandinavian countries

strange isn't it

Historically, gun violence is associated with immigrants from Ireland, Scotland, and Northern England. It is still associated with the region they settled.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5677 on: September 12, 2023, 01:29:05 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on September 12, 2023, 12:58:07 PM
Here ya go…

https://x.com/marionawfal/status/1701611222364483773?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

Ok, sure. Not over the top all. Sure this "person" isn't a Soviet or Chinese Commie Scum bot?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5678 on: September 12, 2023, 01:31:23 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on September 12, 2023, 12:55:13 PM
"Low confidence"? I find it hard to get worked up about "low confidence."
The "significant monetary incentive" might be a bigger issue than the confidence level
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5679 on: September 12, 2023, 01:36:31 PM »
“According to the whistleblower, at the end of its review, six of the seven members of the Team believed that intelligence and science were sufficient to make a low confidence assessment that COVID-19 originated from a laboratory in Wuhan, China.”

"The seventh member of the Team, who also happened to be the most senior, was the one officer to believe Covid originated through zoonosis."
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5680 on: September 12, 2023, 01:43:39 PM »
Quote from: Mn on September 12, 2023, 01:31:23 PM
The "significant monetary incentive" might be a bigger issue than the confidence level

The 6 whose vote was apparently for sale had the low confidence.

"The seventh member of the Team, who also happened to be the most senior, was the one officer to believe Covid originated through zoonosis."
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5681 on: September 12, 2023, 01:44:48 PM »
Quote from: Mn on September 12, 2023, 01:31:23 PM
The "significant monetary incentive" might be a bigger issue than the confidence level

We've been down this road so many times and it winds up at a dead end. I'll believe when someone shows the receipts.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5682 on: September 12, 2023, 02:35:05 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on September 12, 2023, 12:46:08 PM
shockingly if you remove all the black and hispanic people in the USA our gun death rate is similar to scandinavian countries

strange isn't it

[citation needed]

Also - is that the rate of offenders, or victims?

Also - now do those stats for "children shot in schools wrt race"
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5683 on: September 12, 2023, 02:40:49 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on September 12, 2023, 01:15:16 PM
So the tendency to resort to deadly violence appears to be cultural and regional. Take away legal guns; they will obtain them illegally. If we somehow manage to take away illegal guns; they'll use knives. Or homemade bombs.

Interesting.

Scandanavian countries were mentions. There are hispanic and black people in Scandanavian countries. What is the gun violence rate amongst those cultures in Scandanavia?

Crime in general - worldwide - tends to follow one very clear demographic when you control for all other factors. The less money you have, the more violent crime you commit. ILLove attributes it to skin color - saying it's an attribute of race - if you are hispanic or black you are more prone to violence. But run it through the NVidia AI machines and we see that this is not true - it's not about brown or black, it's about green. Want less violent crime? Give more opportunities to people with less money, which in this country trends towards people of color.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5684 on: September 12, 2023, 03:13:12 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on September 12, 2023, 02:40:49 PM
Interesting.

Scandanavian countries were mentions. There are hispanic and black people in Scandanavian countries. What is the gun violence rate amongst those cultures in Scandanavia?

Crime in general - worldwide - tends to follow one very clear demographic when you control for all other factors. The less money you have, the more violent crime you commit. ILLove attributes it to skin color - saying it's an attribute of race - if you are hispanic or black you are more prone to violence. But run it through the NVidia AI machines and we see that this is not true - it's not about brown or black, it's about green. Want less violent crime? Give more opportunities to people with less money, which in this country trends towards people of color.

Iirc, The article mentions that German immigrants to Appalachia adopted the Scots-Irish culture? The violence is not about race. It is about a culture of honor codes.

 “Arguments over pocket change or popsicles in these Southern cultures can result in people getting killed, but what’s at stake isn’t the popsicle, it’s personal honor.”

The article touches on why. Keepers of herds as opposed to tillers of soil. The former rely on respect for turf; the latter on community and cooperation.
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