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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1245 on: December 16, 2020, 12:19:41 PM »
the Polio vaccine only took 23 years to develop, and was a far more serious illness than a seasonal coronavirus

Report: White House security chief has leg amputated due to COVID

“The director of White House security who has been hospitalized since September with COVID-19 needed his lower right leg amputated along with his left big toe due to complications from the virus, according to a report by Bloomberg News, citing confirmation by family friends.”

“Doctors are still learning about the extent to which the coronavirus can damage the body, but loss of blood flow is one possible consequence. The virus is known to attack the vascular system and can cause deadly blood clots.”
https://www.ajc.com/news/white-house-security-chief-has-leg-amputated-due-to-covid-19/KY5K6ASU4RHZTMJ3K4W2LBFHIY/

Tragic.  Don’t underestimate the impact of this virus. 

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1246 on: December 16, 2020, 12:22:38 PM »
Report: White House security chief has leg amputated due to COVID

“The director of White House security who has been hospitalized since September with COVID-19 needed his lower right leg amputated along with his left big toe due to complications from the virus, according to a report by Bloomberg News, citing confirmation by family friends.”

“Doctors are still learning about the extent to which the coronavirus can damage the body, but loss of blood flow is one possible consequence. The virus is known to attack the vascular system and can cause deadly blood clots.”
https://www.ajc.com/news/white-house-security-chief-has-leg-amputated-due-to-covid-19/KY5K6ASU4RHZTMJ3K4W2LBFHIY/

Tragic.  Don’t underestimate the impact of this virus.

🙄Nothing like picking some very rare extreme examples to back your claims. How many people do I need to tell u about that have been perfectly fine after getting the virus and recovering quite nicely?! Including myself....
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1247 on: December 16, 2020, 12:30:04 PM »
Report: White House security chief has leg amputated due to COVID

“The director of White House security who has been hospitalized since September with COVID-19 needed his lower right leg amputated along with his left big toe due to complications from the virus, according to a report by Bloomberg News, citing confirmation by family friends.”

“Doctors are still learning about the extent to which the coronavirus can damage the body, but loss of blood flow is one possible consequence. The virus is known to attack the vascular system and can cause deadly blood clots.”
https://www.ajc.com/news/white-house-security-chief-has-leg-amputated-due-to-covid-19/KY5K6ASU4RHZTMJ3K4W2LBFHIY/

Tragic.  Don’t underestimate the impact of this virus.

lmao yeah, totally nothing to do with his diabetes or anything
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1248 on: December 16, 2020, 12:34:41 PM »
Report: White House security chief has leg amputated due to COVID

“The director of White House security who has been hospitalized since September with COVID-19 needed his lower right leg amputated along with his left big toe due to complications from the virus, according to a report by Bloomberg News, citing confirmation by family friends.”

“Doctors are still learning about the extent to which the coronavirus can damage the body, but loss of blood flow is one possible consequence. The virus is known to attack the vascular system and can cause deadly blood clots.”
https://www.ajc.com/news/white-house-security-chief-has-leg-amputated-due-to-covid-19/KY5K6ASU4RHZTMJ3K4W2LBFHIY/

Tragic.  Don’t underestimate the impact of this virus.

Thanks, useful idiot

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1249 on: December 16, 2020, 01:07:36 PM »
Because FOX News told me so…

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1250 on: December 16, 2020, 01:12:50 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1251 on: December 16, 2020, 02:49:59 PM »
the Polio vaccine only took 23 years to develop, and was a far more serious illness than a seasonal coronavirus
It was also primarily a fecal to oral transmission vector - thus more concerning to Republicans who kiss Trump's ass continuously

More to the point...

For example, in the immediate pre-vaccine era (i.e., early 1950s), between 13,000 and 20,000 paralytic cases were reported each year.

COVID has killed 300,000 this year.

The whole thing isn't super shocking, humans are more afraid of infrequent events that have a high probability of heavy consquences, than frequent events that have a low probability of heavy consequences.

You are far 100 times more likely to catch COVID than you were to catch polio, but if you caught polio you'd have a 15-20% chance of dying, instead of a 1% chance. Polio seems scarier, but the average American today is more likely to die of COVID than the average American was to die of Polio in 1950.

If you had a choice - catch COVID or catch polio - you'd choose COVID. If you had a choice - COVID outbreak or Polio outbreak - you should choose Polio, at least if your utility function is "will I die". It's not exactly that simple - one could assert that without a vaccine, that you will eventually catch the disease we choose sooner or later, in which case we aren't talking about the probability of infection times the probability of mortality, because the probability of infection is 100%
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1252 on: December 16, 2020, 03:36:09 PM »
Covid has not killed 300,000 this year.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1253 on: December 16, 2020, 04:33:18 PM »
Covid has not killed 300,000 this year.

The motherfucker stating that above is INSANE!! All these people are crazy as fuck and there’s no reasoning with them. Fucking sheep!
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1254 on: December 16, 2020, 04:38:13 PM »
Covid has not killed 300,000 this year.

Good grief, you are not buying the co-morbidities and immediate causes of death nonsense? Some CDC report noted that covid-19 was listed as the sole cause of death in only a small number of cases. That was probably due to either sloppy death certificates or no autopsy being done. While coronavirus disease 2019 is frequently listed as the underlying cause of death, it is never going to be the sole or immediate cause. The latter will be something like acute respiratory distress, multiple organ failure, sepsis, and so on. Co-morbidities; which may or may not be preexisting, are frequently listed as contributing causes of death.

There have been more than 300,000 covid-19 deaths; meaning that covid-19 was the underlying cause of death. Yes, a few accidental deaths were mistakenly listed as covid deaths, but those errors were caught.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/blue_form.pdf

BTW, hospitals do not get paid extra for covid deaths.
     
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1255 on: December 16, 2020, 05:03:43 PM »
The motherfucker stating that above is INSANE!!


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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1256 on: December 16, 2020, 05:20:05 PM »


Let’s just make that 3 kettles.... digging for meat/food in dumpsters and then eating it will qualify one for that designation.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1257 on: December 16, 2020, 06:31:50 PM »
Let’s just make that 3 kettles.... digging for meat/food in dumpsters and then eating it will qualify one for that designation.

I'm sure you could imagine such a situation. For example, if one were actually digging, and the substance one dug through were used cat litter and wet, mold covered carpeting; that would seem at least desperate, and possibly a sign of mental health issues.

The problem here, with your contention, is that you're projecting knowledge while making assumptions. It's not uncommon, and not necessarily a sign of insanity so much as ignorance. Ignorance is not the same thing as stupidity, but people who are ignorant are often stupid, too.

I suggest that you would be crazy, ignorant AND stupid to spot a Lenovo ideapad 330-15ikb on the top of an overstuffed dumpster and not take it home with you. I just happen to be transferring files to one right now, from an ASUS Q304U which I also found this summer. The ASUS was merely near a dumpster, in a box with a nice Lenovo desktop and a separate, large screen ASUS laptop.

Luckily, I am prepared to believe that you are crazy, ignorant and stupid.

Two days ago,as the temperature hovered around 34 degrees, I spotted a 3lb bag of new potatoes. To the naked eye, it was clear that the bag had never been opened. The owner probably tossed them because s/he freaked out when the eyes started popping out. They'll be good for another month or so.

I would have taken them home even if the bag were half empty, of course. If they're carrying any germs, the FryDaddy will see to that. They're not likely more infected than any other potatoes in the vicinity.

The bag was, yes, in the dumpster. It sat on a tripod formed by two dry corrugated cardboard boxes and one filled tall kitchen garbage bag.

Is it crazier for the buyer to toss potatoes because eyes were sprouting, or for me to retrieve them? 

What about the 26 cans of Campbell's soup I found on Thanksgiving Day? I'd say it'd be crazy to not bring them home, but it would have been stupid if I didn't wash them with soap and water in the kitchen sink.

These people throw out entire fridge/freezers of food, typically in one or two tightly closed plastic bags, but sometimes in the Rubbermaid kitchen garbage can itself. If it's warm, and leaking, I'd recommend you leave it for the raccoons. If it's still cold or frozen, you'd want to know more before rejecting it.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1258 on: December 16, 2020, 06:46:51 PM »
I'm sure you could imagine such a situation. For example, if one were actually digging, and the substance one dug through were used cat litter and wet, mold covered carpeting; that would seem at least desperate, and possibly a sign of mental health issues.

The problem here, with your contention, is that you're projecting knowledge while making assumptions. It's not uncommon, and not necessarily a sign of insanity so much as ignorance. Ignorance is not the same thing as stupidity, but people who are ignorant are often stupid, too.

I suggest that you would be crazy, ignorant AND stupid to spot a Lenovo ideapad 330-15ikb on the top of an overstuffed dumpster and not take it home with you. I just happen to be transferring files to one right now, from an ASUS Q304U which I also found this summer. The ASUS was merely near a dumpster, in a box with a nice Lenovo desktop and a separate, large screen ASUS laptop.

Luckily, I am prepared to believe that you are crazy, ignorant and stupid.

Two days ago,as the temperature hovered around 34 degrees, I spotted a 3lb bag of new potatoes. To the naked eye, it was clear that the bag had never been opened. The owner probably tossed them because s/he freaked out when the eyes started popping out. They'll be good for another month or so.

I would have taken them home even if the bag were half empty, of course. If they're carrying any germs, the FryDaddy will see to that. They're not likely more infected than any other potatoes in the vicinity.

The bag was, yes, in the dumpster. It sat on a tripod formed by two dry corrugated cardboard boxes and one filled tall kitchen garbage bag.

Is it crazier for the buyer to toss potatoes because eyes were sprouting, or for me to retrieve them? 

What about the 26 cans of Campbell's soup I found on Thanksgiving Day? I'd say it'd be crazy to not bring them home, but it would have been stupid if I didn't wash them with soap and water in the kitchen sink.

These people throw out entire fridge/freezers of food, typically in one or two tightly closed plastic bags, but sometimes in the Rubbermaid kitchen garbage can itself. If it's warm, and leaking, I'd recommend you leave it for the raccoons. If it's still cold or frozen, you'd want to know more before rejecting it.

You are one weird fucking dude. I have no problem taking things from dumpsters, but not food. You can ramble on for days about the do’s/don’ts of the food u can/can’t get, if you think it makes you seem smart or intelligent. Sounds like you’re running low on the trust-fund money. I guess if I get that hard up or desperate you might see me out there with you one cold lonely night.  I guess I prefer the supermarket for my food, but to each their own. I’d think at least 90% of the US population would agree with me, but I guess I could be wrong. Happy hunting!
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1259 on: December 16, 2020, 06:58:17 PM »
Let’s just make that 3 kettles.... digging for meat/food in dumpsters and then eating it will qualify one for that designation.

Have I missed something previously posted on this forum?